Is the "meth" you are referring to methamphetamine?  Sorry, I don't know the
language very well.

That's surprising to me about heroin as I thought it would surly short
circuit the neurological system and probably damage all organs to some
extent!

Can you point me to a source of information about Ibogaine.  Sounds like
there is much potential there.

To switch gears a bit, what do you think of a case of Lyme disease that
wasn't diagnosed for some 6 months after the onset of symptoms and has yet
to exhibit the Lyme virus?  This person was treated aggressively with
antibiotics and eventually with CS.  At a stand still currently with some
neurological deficits.

I'm just beginning to delve into Lyme disease, but it would seem that
somewhere along the line someone would be able to definitively, conclusively
detect the virus.  Some of us are beginning to wonder if in fact she has/had
Lyme or if the diagnosis was based more on symptoms!

I have heard that after a given length of time it is more difficult to
isolate the Lyme virus.....but then I've HEARD so much that I'm currently in
a fizz!

Any suggestions or thoughts.  I believe that people who are capable of
"thinking" beat modern medicine hands down!
----- Original Message -----
From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome


>
> Here is the information on a lead for Ibogaine treatment.
>
> Dr. Deborah Mash PhD (Not medical)
> University of Miami
> Probably the best place to start is the Department of Neurology.
>
> She is a principal in a facility located on St. Kitts Island.
>
> My friend said the presence of Meth might interfere with the use of
> Ibogaine; that will probably need to be addressed first. Of them all, it
is
> the worst, long range.  Heroin, aside from the dangers of OD and the
> potential for serious infection through  route of administration, and
> malnutrition due to lack of interest in food, doesn't itself cause a lot
of
> physiological damage.  Meth does.
>
> Each of us has things to learn from each life. My current take an all this
> suffering is that the greater being wants the experiences to create the
> foundation for experiences of a different order and magnitude.
>
> "Little wheel turn by the fire and rod.
> Big wheel turn by the will of god.
> Every time that wheel go round, bound to cover just a little more ground."
>
> Good fortune,
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara Liles [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:16 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
>
>
> Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Although nothing will surpass the desire to be substance free, seems like
> there ought to be something out there that would begin to correct the
> chemical mess that results from introducing a host of bad chemicals into
the
> system.
>
> I have little faith in "modern medicine's" approach to anything.  Seems
like
> they just initiate their own chemical dilemma!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:25 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
>
>
> > I am contacting a friend who is a Shrink and has a great deal of
knowledge
> > about such matters.  If he has useful leads will forward them to you.
> >
> > James-Osbourne: Holmes
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barbara Liles [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:53 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> >
> >
> > James,
> >
> > I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help with
> > drug addiction.  I think crank, heroine and pot are all involved.
> >
> > What is Ibogain.  Is it really a tangible thing or slang for whatever?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> >
> >
> > > Yes.  All of that has also been my observation.  When one experiences
a
> > > really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
> > > distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range
> > health
> > > deterioration.
> > >
> > > Ibogain.  Relatively easy withdrawal from heroin addiction after as
> little
> > > as one dose has been reported in the medical community.  I hear it is
a
> > > fantastic aphrodisiac too.  I have never been able to track it down.
> > >
> > >
> > > NOTE.  Mandatory Colloidal-Silver-Related-Content follows: I wonder if
> you
> > > took a dose of a potent psychedelic with silver could you could watch
> the
> > > sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a
> > > molecular level?
> > >
> > > James-Osbourne: Holmes
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> > >
> > >
> > >   I really don't know.  I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years.  I
> suspect
> > > it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin
from
> > the
> > > shroom did it in.  The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly
> kind
> > > gotten from  niacin.
> > >  It is the brain that directs everything, after all.  Direct the brain
> and
> > > there's no tellin what can happen. Shamans have been using the shroom
> for
> > > eons to enable alternative focus of attention.
> > > Psychedelics have been know to completely reprogram people overnight.
> > > Longtime addicts to alchohol, coke and heroin have been "cured" in
days
> > > without withdrawals with the use of strong psychedelics such as
abogain
> > > [sp?] treatments.    The early experiments with LSD yeilded some
similar
> > > amazing results too.
> > >  But it's not legal here.
> > >  People who have their programming erased get strange ideas about
> freedom
> > > that those who would define it for us don't like. [No more achoholism
> AND
> > > no more marriage?  No sense of hurry or pressure..no need for a car?]
> > >  They like the idea that one would be freed of a drug addiction, but
> don't
> > > like it when the person gets freed of the whole consumer
addiction/wage
> > > serf value system enchilada.
> > >
> > >  If someone rethinks the entire system from scratch..that could be
> > > dangerous.
> > >  When role playing means nothing, what then, is the role of leader
> worth?
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:05 PM 8/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Ode Coyote wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>  Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain
> > > fertilizer.
> > > >>
> > > >> It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size
> of
> > a
> > > >> ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
> > > >> Ken
> > > >
> > > >Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.
> > > >
> > > >Jeannie
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >We lie the loudest when we lie to ourselves.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Jeannie McReynolds
> > > >Oregon Coast
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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