Thanks for repeating the Ibogaine web site.  Don't know how I missed it!

I would appreciate any information that might be forthcoming about magnetic
pulsing.

Will suggest the CS/ lactated Ringers/ MSM mix to my friend.

Isn't the MSM almost identical to DMSO?  They sure don't taste like
relatives!

Actually, I don't know what all tests were negative.  She was just told that
the tests were negative!!

Thanks for your help.  I will pass this on.
----- Original Message -----
From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 3:19 PM
Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome


> Response in your text.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara Liles [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:12 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
>
>
> Is the "meth" you are referring to methamphetamine?  Sorry, I don't know
the
> language very well.
>
> JOH: Yes.  Invented by the Nazis.
>
> That's surprising to me about heroin as I thought it would surly short
> circuit the neurological system and probably damage all organs to some
> extent!
>
> JOH: Other than the dangers of poking septic stuff into your veins,
> malnutrition and constipation are the main physical effects, lacking
serious
> overdose.
>
> Can you point me to a source of information about Ibogaine.  Sounds like
> there is much potential there.
>
> JOH:  This was just offered on the silver list.  I have not read it.
>
> http://www.ibogaine.org/index.html
>
> To switch gears a bit, what do you think of a case of Lyme disease that
> wasn't diagnosed for some 6 months after the onset of symptoms and has yet
> to exhibit the Lyme virus?  This person was treated aggressively with
> antibiotics and eventually with CS.  At a stand still currently with some
> neurological deficits.
>
> JOH: It is a bacteria, a Spirochete closely related to Syphilis, causing
> similar damage. It is intercellular and has a life cycle of about 35 days.
I
> tend to think long-term---months, or maybe years---of high quality CS will
> eliminate it, but others on the list think that additional methods are
> useful or needed, particularly magnetic pulsing. Ask on the list and
someone
> will direct you to information on the device and use and other techniques.
> IV CS administered by a practitioner who knows safe technique will
probably
> be more effective than oral CS.  There are other similar organisms with
> similar effects that CS will probably kill.
>
> Do you mean that antibody tests are negative?
>
> A mix of 10 (or thereabouts) mg/L CS, 1 part by volume, and 3 parts
lactated
> Ringers solution, and 1/4 teaspoon Methylsulfonylmethane will enhance
> absorption and increase blood levels about 4 times oral CS alone without
the
> invasive technique. That would be 1 ounce, 3 ounces, and 1/4 teaspoon.
> Exact is not critical.  Ringers is a common electrolyte replacement
solution
> used in modern medicine. Gatoraid is basically that.  You can get clear
> Gatoraid, without the food coloring.  You will either need a script to buy
> Ringers at a pharmacy, or you can buy it for animals from a farm supply
type
> business. All drugs sold for animals must meet the standards of USP.
>
> I'm just beginning to delve into Lyme disease, but it would seem that
> somewhere along the line someone would be able to definitively,
conclusively
> detect the virus.  Some of us are beginning to wonder if in fact she
has/had
> Lyme or if the diagnosis was based more on symptoms!
>
> JOH: Whatever, if it is good CS, it can't hurt, and may help. Last I heard
> Borrelia is seldom cultured. Serological tests are insensitive during the
> early acute stage of the disease.  Other methods may work, but results are
> often confusing.
>
> I have heard that after a given length of time it is more difficult to
> isolate the Lyme virus.....but then I've HEARD so much that I'm currently
in
> a fizz!
>
> Any suggestions or thoughts.  I believe that people who are capable of
> "thinking" beat modern medicine hands down!
>
> JOH:  Modern medicine is driven by the chemical giants, and is
fundamentally
> evil,  but can offer many useful benefits.  I use what works from all
> schools, from faith-healing to surgery, each in their proper place. Self
> education from a broad spectrum of information sources helps choose what
> works for you.  You will intuitively know bullshit from useful
information.
>
> The fundamental basis for good health is good nutrition.  Than includes
> physical, mental/emotional, and spiritual natural foods.  Your thoughts
> create your reality.
>
> Good luck with it,
>
> JOH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:43 AM
> Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
>
>
> >
> > Here is the information on a lead for Ibogaine treatment.
> >
> > Dr. Deborah Mash PhD (Not medical)
> > University of Miami
> > Probably the best place to start is the Department of Neurology.
> >
> > She is a principal in a facility located on St. Kitts Island.
> >
> > My friend said the presence of Meth might interfere with the use of
> > Ibogaine; that will probably need to be addressed first. Of them all, it
> is
> > the worst, long range.  Heroin, aside from the dangers of OD and the
> > potential for serious infection through  route of administration, and
> > malnutrition due to lack of interest in food, doesn't itself cause a lot
> of
> > physiological damage.  Meth does.
> >
> > Each of us has things to learn from each life. My current take an all
this
> > suffering is that the greater being wants the experiences to create the
> > foundation for experiences of a different order and magnitude.
> >
> > "Little wheel turn by the fire and rod.
> > Big wheel turn by the will of god.
> > Every time that wheel go round, bound to cover just a little more
ground."
> >
> > Good fortune,
> >
> > James-Osbourne: Holmes
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barbara Liles [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 7:16 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> >
> >
> > Thanks, any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Although nothing will surpass the desire to be substance free, seems
like
> > there ought to be something out there that would begin to correct the
> > chemical mess that results from introducing a host of bad chemicals into
> the
> > system.
> >
> > I have little faith in "modern medicine's" approach to anything.  Seems
> like
> > they just initiate their own chemical dilemma!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 4:25 PM
> > Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> >
> >
> > > I am contacting a friend who is a Shrink and has a great deal of
> knowledge
> > > about such matters.  If he has useful leads will forward them to you.
> > >
> > > James-Osbourne: Holmes
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Barbara Liles [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 9:53 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> > >
> > >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > I'm sorta confused here, but have a very dear child that needs help
with
> > > drug addiction.  I think crank, heroine and pot are all involved.
> > >
> > > What is Ibogain.  Is it really a tangible thing or slang for whatever?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:49 AM
> > > Subject: RE: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes.  All of that has also been my observation.  When one
experiences
> a
> > > > really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
> > > > distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and
long-range
> > > health
> > > > deterioration.
> > > >
> > > > Ibogain.  Relatively easy withdrawal from heroin addiction after as
> > little
> > > > as one dose has been reported in the medical community.  I hear it
is
> a
> > > > fantastic aphrodisiac too.  I have never been able to track it down.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NOTE.  Mandatory Colloidal-Silver-Related-Content follows: I wonder
if
> > you
> > > > took a dose of a potent psychedelic with silver could you could
watch
> > the
> > > > sliver kill the pathogens up-close and figure out the mechanism on a
> > > > molecular level?
> > > >
> > > > James-Osbourne: Holmes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:36 AM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: CS>RE: Glad cow syndrome
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   I really don't know.  I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years.  I
> > suspect
> > > > it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin
> from
> > > the
> > > > shroom did it in.  The heat seemed to be both thermal and the
prickly
> > kind
> > > > gotten from  niacin.
> > > >  It is the brain that directs everything, after all.  Direct the
brain
> > and
> > > > there's no tellin what can happen. Shamans have been using the
shroom
> > for
> > > > eons to enable alternative focus of attention.
> > > > Psychedelics have been know to completely reprogram people
overnight.
> > > > Longtime addicts to alchohol, coke and heroin have been "cured" in
> days
> > > > without withdrawals with the use of strong psychedelics such as
> abogain
> > > > [sp?] treatments.    The early experiments with LSD yeilded some
> similar
> > > > amazing results too.
> > > >  But it's not legal here.
> > > >  People who have their programming erased get strange ideas about
> > freedom
> > > > that those who would define it for us don't like. [No more
achoholism
> > AND
> > > > no more marriage?  No sense of hurry or pressure..no need for a
car?]
> > > >  They like the idea that one would be freed of a drug addiction, but
> > don't
> > > > like it when the person gets freed of the whole consumer
> addiction/wage
> > > > serf value system enchilada.
> > > >
> > > >  If someone rethinks the entire system from scratch..that could be
> > > > dangerous.
> > > >  When role playing means nothing, what then, is the role of leader
> > worth?
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 01:05 PM 8/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Ode Coyote wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>  Psylicybe [sp]  Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain
> > > > fertilizer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the
size
> > of
> > > a
> > > > >> ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger.
> > > > >> Ken
> > > > >
> > > > >Could this have been a fatty tumor?  I have several of those.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jeannie
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >We lie the loudest when we lie to ourselves.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Jeannie McReynolds
> > > > >Oregon Coast
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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