How about Everything is how you experience it..including time. and anything experienced to it's fullest becomes the nothing it is. There is no proof that anything at all exists. The experience of objective reality is an image formed from infomation supplied by the senses and arranged by running a program through the image of a processor. But the senses don't prove that there's anything 'out there' to sense or even that there IS an 'out there'. Reality, then, well may be a self validating feedback loop of fantasy...and it has holes... things that sometimes don't add up...don't fit the program. [phenomenon..windows in the walls of deniability we construct to back up what we believe is true by hiding every thing else from ourselves.] The only thing that can be proven is the experience, by the experience. But that proves nothing about the qualities of what's IN the experience. We really have little idea about what, when and where we are. [or, the idea is ALL we have] All "this" could well be a simple matter of misidentification...us fooling ourselves into a grand adventure.
I for one, know how easy it is to fool myself. That certainly doesn't mean I won't. [As recently illustrated] I am the easiest person for me to lie to in the entire omniverse of my own perceptions. Believing is seeing. Do YOU really exist? Or are both you and I a frigment of my enfragmentation? The only thing I know about you, or me, is what I experience...and not what you experience. Will my experience of you match yours of you? [Just enough for deniability] Perhaps, then, you created your version of me in your mind for you to experience. [Wherever or whatever THAT might be..if there even ARE wheres and whats at any "given" time when time itself is so subjective of an experience] Time. We slice it into objective segments of duration by imposing clock on it. Does that mean it's sliced or does it just look that way to the one wielding the knife? [Time's fun when you're having flies] Infinite order includes infinite chaos. They are the same. The only experential difference is in how much order can be experienced within the limitations of the program and hardware? that processes it. A virtual computer in a virtual reality running a program 'made up' of limitations of ideas with senses designed to validate the limitations? Reality. The closer you look at it, the more it dissappears. The brain is in the mind. It doesn't think, it selectively filters and processes thought. It denies a lot more than it admits. If it admitted everything, it would have to deny its own existance. The eyes are designed to 'not' see a lot more than they do. They focus on so little and we call that clear sight. [when, in fact, it's not the eyes that do the seeing at all...the brain does... and the vision is but a pattern that brain made up using information from the eyes as a basis for the idea of what things should look like according to what it learned of the general conceptual program of what things look like as learned as a baby. That is, a babies eyes focus just fine, it's identification of patterns what are gradually learned...meanings imposed on the program.] Anything missing from the expected learned pattern gets seemlessly filled in. Are you ever aware of the great big blind spot right in the middle of everything you look at? NO But you can prove it's there by upsetting expectation. If someone who has been blind all his life suddenly gains sight, he cannot identify what he sees until he touches it so he can compare the vision to the patterns of meaning he learned. He cannot even tell the difference between a ball and a cube until he touches it. [television could be a real problem] What if you grew up in a different culture that has different ideas about what things mean? Can you even see something that has no learned meaning? UFO experiencers would indicate not. If a UFO landed right in front of ten people, only two would see it. Another two might find it if they bumped into it. Four would walk unconciously around it or stay frozen in place and neither see or bump into it and the remaining two would have nightmares. And those that experienced anything at all won't agree on what that experience was unless they had very similar belief systems like family members or close friends or had communicated during the experience and reached an agreement then. The specialist learns more and more about less and less till he knows everything about nothing. The generalist learns less and less about more and more till he knows nothing about everything. Ken > >"Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time".>Jack [depends on the persons aquired patterns of opinion and how hard they defend them at any given time. Sometimes reality gets blown out of it's own water. Then everything changes or gets denied. Ever had a car run 'through' you and not leave a scratch? I and two friends got beaten by a gang of thugs with tire irons once and suffered no damage or pain at all. It was like feathers and ghosts. But it was so unbelievable that none of us ever even discussed it. Afterwards, we just stood there looking at each other with stupid quizzical expressions on our faces and went home in a daze. The 4rth person, a woman, who never took a blow, was freaking out and we couldn't comprehend why.] Transmutation of elements in living bodies? Sure, why not? This 'place' is WEIRD! ..not nearly as real as is believed. Ken > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
