Re: CS>Reality lives !!Thanks, James that was good reading, but:

Bah!

There is no such thing as an empty glass.

That is the true nature of reality, as expressed in "The formula of a
Vaccum" in an alternate translation of the Tao Te King.

Of course, the same conception was taught by the Essenes, the esoteric
jewish mystics, Christ, and as far as I know every authentic tradition that
spans the globe.  BUT that would be religious controversy....

Perhaps a wise man might say:

Don't read between the lines, rather
Drive through them with your soul.

Let me just quote a stanza from the Tao Te King ( Ching ), and then we can
begin our own Tao Te Silver!
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Heaven and Earth appear indifferent
They view the ten plus thousand things as unreal.
The wise appear indifferent
They view society as unreal.
The space between Heaven and Earth
How like a bellows it is!
Empty but never exhausted the shape changes but not the form.
The more it moves the more it yields
More words count less
Too much senses lead to utter exhaustion.
Maintain the perfect freedom of your nature -
Hold fast to the center.
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Tao Te Silver

( Silver and the Way )

The ions that can be measured are not the real ions
The zeta potential that can be gauged is not the real potential
The current IS the father of  particles and ions
The water is the mother of atoms and particles; proteins and salts

Ever managing the current one can see the mystery
Ever managing the water one can purify the expression.

The silver ions and particles spring from the same source but differ in
designation
To the uninformed, this appears as darkness
Darkness within darkess!
Heed well!
The gateway to good colloidal silver.

.....

Contaminate not the water lest it fill with compounds
You can create silver ions
but you cannot prevent reactions
You can create silver particles
But you cannot guarantee cellular union:
When false claims fill your mind
You become unguardable.

Claim superiority and authority
And you bequeath misfortune upon yourself
Rather:  Just make your CS
And withdraw when the work is done
For that is the Way of Silver.



----- Original Message -----
From: James Allison
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Reality lives !!


I think I may have finely found what is real!  And somebody was correct
earlier, when they said it could be found on the net!

---Begin

Half Empty or Half Full?

The study of Chaos often leads to what we call eureka moments. "Eureka" is
an expression of triumph upon discovering a startling truth. Archimedes, one
of the greatest intellects of antiquity, used this expression (literally "I
have found it!") when he figured out how to determine the purity of gold
objects.
We get closer to this eureka moment when the study of Chaos changes us and
gives us a new way to examine the world. This transformed perspective lets
us take something ordinary and familiar, and suddenly see in it all sorts of
interesting new insights.
For example, let's take a glass and fill it with water to the halfway point.
We then ask the customary, time-honored question, "Is the glass half empty
or half full?"
Haven't we all seen this a zillion times? What new insights can we possibly
squeeze out of this tired old platitude?
As we all know, the glass serves as a metaphor for life, and water
represents the good things in it. So, seeing the glass as half empty means
you're a pessimist, because you dwell on the lack in your life. Seeing it as
half full means you're optimistic, because you focus on the good things in
life. Most people choose the latter and describe themselves as optimists. In
all likelihood, this means you, too.
Notice an interesting social phenomenon here. Most people want to be seen as
optimists, even those who are usually morose and glum. Aren't we just a
planet full of upbeat, sunny cheerleaders? How interesting! Why do we have
such a social pressure to be relentlessly optimistic?
Let's look at it from a completely different angle and turn this paradigm
upside down. Is it always a negative thing to see the glass as half empty?
Suppose such a perception motivates you to fill the glass - so to speak -
whereas seeing it as half full leads to complacency. Focusing on the lack in
one's life can then be a driving force for success. Not so negative now, is
it?
Look at the overachievers who accomplish great things in any field. They
probably started out life with the idea that there wasn't enough water in
their glass to suit them, so they worked to fill it up. On the other hand,
at the opposite end of the spectrum, we have the underachievers who dawdle
away their lives in torpid passivity. Perhaps they do so because their focus
is on what they already possess, rather than the areas of life that can use
some improvement.
Another similar idea is to recognize the inherent usefulness of emptiness.
In chapter 11 of Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu makes the point that the emptiness of
a cup gives it utility and function. The lower part of the glass that is
already filled with water cannot accept another drop, and if we remind
ourselves that this represents life, we quickly see that the empty portion
is where all the action can take place.
The Taoist/Chaoist concept of emptiness is not a vacuous state of
nothingness; rather, it is a pregnant void bursting with potentialities. Now
we can see how this makes perfect sense. The blank pages in the book of your
life are where the continuing tale of your adventures will be written. These
empty pages are the place where unlimited possibilities exist. It's where
the excitement and the joie de vivre reside.
The emptiness is the part that can hold more water (good things). It is what
makes the glass (life) useful and functional. So why wouldn't we want to
focus on it? When you think of it this way, doesn't it seem a little odd
that most people choose to see the glass as half full instead of half empty?
See what's going on here? Even though most of us have heard about the glass
half filled with water many, many times, in all likelihood it has never
occurred to us that we can switch the positive and negative perceptions
around so easily. Evidently there's more to the glass than meets the eyes.
We also need to examine the unspoken assumptions and see how valid they
really are. For instance, we start out with the unwritten, assumed rule that
we have two choices, half full or half empty, and we must choose one of
them. But must we really? Does it really have to be one or the other? Why
can it not be both, or neither?
Indeed, a glass with water at the halfway point can be seen as both half
empty and half full. Sometimes it is useful to think of it one way; other
times it's better to see it the other way. This is a completely accurate
description of reality, and probably a much better way to conceptualize it
than to arbitrarily force it into one category or another. By recognizing
that the glass can embody both descriptions simultaneously, we begin to deal
with it from a holistic mindset, taking into account every aspect of the
object.
In this mindset, we can see that asking about the glass being half full or
half empty is just like asking about the nature of light. Is light composed
of particles or waves? Well, the true answer is that light embodies
properties of both particles and waves. Sometimes it is useful to think of
it one way; other times it's better to see it the other way. This is a
completely accurate description of reality, and probably a much better way
to conceptualize it than to arbitrarily force it into one category or
another.
Now let's look at the flip side. How can we say that the glass is neither
half full nor half empty? First, we note that both descriptions can only be
perfectly accurate in theory, and never in reality. When you pour water into
the glass, no matter how careful you are and what precision tools you use,
you will never hit the exact halfway mark. If you are very lucky, you can
get to the point where you're only a few molecules off, over or under. Thus,
the glass is never truly half full or half empty. Its state can only be
described approximately.
The second factor is the Chaoist concept of constant change. Nothing remains
static. Nothing. As soon as any water gets into the glass, evaporation
begins. At any given moment, the glass is releasing water molecules into the
air. In fact, if we wait long enough, the glass won't just be half empty -
it will be empty, period!
For some of us, the water goes away even more quickly, because we have
imperfect glasses with hairline fractures, where water seeps out at an
alarming rate. This means the good things in our lives never seem to last.
You manage to get a great job, only to be downsized; you buy a new car, only
to discover it's a lemon; and so on.
In the face of this dynamism, where the only question is how quickly water
goes away, we need to take action. If we remain inactive, then it's a
certainty that the good things in life will soon disappear, never to return.
What we want is a constant stream of incoming water to replenish the water
lost to evaporation and possible leakage.
Let's explore a little further. What does the glass look like from a
Zenarchist perspective?
Zen Discordianism recognizes the illusory nature of reality and the ultimate
emptiness of the material world. Thus, when confronted with the choice of
half empty or half full, the Zen Discordianism may answer "neither," because
the water doesn't really exist, nor does the glass.
This may seem far out, but in at least two respects the Zenachist
practitioner is right. First, both the glass and water are transient. We
have already noted that the water will eventually be gone, either when the
glass breaks (the end of your life) or before. The glass may last somewhat
longer than the water, but we know it will eventually be shattered into
pieces and no longer exist as a container. Like the ephemeral flame of a
candle, life flickers into existence for a while, and then gets snuffed out
without much fanfare. In truth, it can claim no more permanent reality than
the candle flame.
The second factor affirming the Zenarchist perspective is our understanding
of the most fundamental level of reality, as revealed through quantum
physics. At the sub-atomic level, we see that what we think of as solid
matter is mostly empty space. The solidity of matter that we perceive is
merely the macroscopic manifestation of energy and information patterns. In
this perspective, the water is indeed illusory, and so is the glass.
Now that we have sampled the Zenachist perspective, we will naturally want
to explore the Chaoist perspective as well. This is an interesting challenge
in view of everything we have talked about so far. We seem to have left no
stone unturned in discussing all the different ways we can approach the
glass. What other insight can the Sacred Chaos provide us that hasn't
already been said? How can a true Discordian sage answer the question in a
way that transcends all other answers on the subject?
The sage does not answer. Instead, he takes the glass, drinks from it, and
relishes the thirst-quenching and refreshing water. He puts the glass back
down and remains quiet, perhaps with a smile on his face, as others scramble
to revise their estimation from half full to quarter full, or half empty to
three-quarters empty.
The sage knows that the essence of life is to be lived, not debated. The
glass and water serve one purpose admirably well, and that is to slake
thirst. Trying to decide if it is half full or half empty does absolutely
nothing to further that purpose. If anything, it gets in the way and delays
the ultimate objective of drinking fully and deeply.
Eris is beyond mere words. Discussing the glass can never replace the
experience of drinking from it; describing the various perspectives will
never get you closer to the actual act of savoring the water. Thus, the sage
wastes no effort on intellectualization; he cuts to the chase.
Eureka!
---END
Yours in health,
James Allison


----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Dayton
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Reality lives !!


Say WHAT?

Jack


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