Here's the engineer/mechanic solution to the problem!! The glass is too big and needs to be re-designed. Cut it at the water line, discard the top portion, and enjoy the glass of water (or whatever)! Reality, R. I. P., and let's get back on topic. Regards, Al... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <coyote...@earthlink.net> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: Re: CS>Reality lives !!
> How about > Everything is how you experience it..including time. > and anything experienced to it's fullest becomes the nothing it is. > There is no proof that anything at all exists. The experience of objective > reality is an image formed from infomation supplied by the senses and > arranged by running a program through the image of a processor. But the > senses don't prove that there's anything 'out there' to sense or even that > there IS an 'out there'. > Reality, then, well may be a self validating feedback loop of > fantasy...and it has holes... things that sometimes don't add up...don't > fit the program. [phenomenon..windows in the walls of deniability we > construct to back up what we believe is true by hiding every thing else > from ourselves.] > The only thing that can be proven is the experience, by the experience. But > that proves nothing about the qualities of what's IN the experience. > We really have little idea about what, when and where we are. [or, the > idea is ALL we have] All "this" could well be a simple matter of > misidentification...us fooling ourselves into a grand adventure. > > I for one, know how easy it is to fool myself. That certainly doesn't mean > I won't. [As recently illustrated] > I am the easiest person for me to lie to in the entire omniverse of my own > perceptions. Believing is seeing. > Do YOU really exist? Or are both you and I a frigment of my enfragmentation? > The only thing I know about you, or me, is what I experience...and not > what you experience. Will my experience of you match yours of you? [Just > enough for deniability] > Perhaps, then, you created your version of me in your mind for you to > experience. [Wherever or whatever THAT might be..if there even ARE wheres > and whats at any "given" time when time itself is so subjective of an > experience] > Time. We slice it into objective segments of duration by imposing clock on > it. Does that mean it's sliced or does it just look that way to the one > wielding the knife? [Time's fun when you're having flies] > > Infinite order includes infinite chaos. They are the same. The only > experential difference is in how much order can be experienced within the > limitations of the program and hardware? that processes it. > A virtual computer in a virtual reality running a program 'made up' of > limitations of ideas with senses designed to validate the limitations? > > Reality. The closer you look at it, the more it dissappears. > The brain is in the mind. It doesn't think, it selectively filters and > processes thought. It denies a lot more than it admits. If it admitted > everything, it would have to deny its own existance. > The eyes are designed to 'not' see a lot more than they do. They focus on > so little and we call that clear sight. [when, in fact, it's not the eyes > that do the seeing at all...the brain does... and the vision is but a > pattern that brain made up using information from the eyes as a basis for > the idea of what things should look like according to what it learned of > the general conceptual program of what things look like as learned as a > baby. That is, a babies eyes focus just fine, it's identification of > patterns what are gradually learned...meanings imposed on the program.] > Anything missing from the expected learned pattern gets seemlessly > filled in. Are you ever aware of the great big blind spot right in the > middle of everything you look at? NO But you can prove it's there by > upsetting expectation. > > If someone who has been blind all his life suddenly gains sight, he cannot > identify what he sees until he touches it so he can compare the vision to > the patterns of meaning he learned. He cannot even tell the difference > between a ball and a cube until he touches it. [television could be a real > problem] > > What if you grew up in a different culture that has different ideas about > what things mean? > Can you even see something that has no learned meaning? UFO experiencers > would indicate not. > If a UFO landed right in front of ten people, only two would see it. > Another two might find it if they bumped into it. Four would walk > unconciously around it or stay frozen in place and neither see or bump into > it and the remaining two would have nightmares. And those that experienced > anything at all won't agree on what that experience was unless they had > very similar belief systems like family members or close friends or had > communicated during the experience and reached an agreement then. > > The specialist learns more and more about less and less till he knows > everything about nothing. > The generalist learns less and less about more and more till he knows > nothing about everything. > Ken > > > >"Every thing is either A or nonA at any given time".>Jack [depends on the > persons aquired patterns of opinion and how hard they defend them at any > given time. Sometimes reality gets blown out of it's own water. Then > everything changes or gets denied. Ever had a car run 'through' you and not > leave a scratch? > I and two friends got beaten by a gang of thugs with tire irons once and > suffered no damage or pain at all. It was like feathers and ghosts. But it > was so unbelievable that none of us ever even discussed it. Afterwards, we > just stood there looking at each other with stupid quizzical expressions on > our faces and went home in a daze. The 4rth person, a woman, who never took > a blow, was freaking out and we couldn't comprehend why.] > > Transmutation of elements in living bodies? Sure, why not? This 'place' > is WEIRD! ..not nearly as real as is believed. > Ken > > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > >
