In regards to viri and Dr. Becker: Dr. Becker had no mechanism by which to study the effect of silver on a virus ( virii are too small to be viewed by a normal microscope ). As an orthopedic surgeon interested in bacterial infections and tissue regeneration, virii also fall outside his scope of both interest and practice. In his book The Body Electric, he didn't go into too much detail about what bacteria silver did or didn't kill ( but he DID qualify that it WAS bacteria ), because it became readily obvious that it killed them all. His work notes a distinct effect of silver ions on human cell morphology, but he never addressed viral conditions.
By direct action or some other catalyst action, silver IS apparently at least partially effective against a number of viral conditions. There is growing evidence that CS is effective against Hepatitis C, HIV, and some forms of the Herpes Virus. "Miraculous" recoveries from Hep C are becoming more common in testimonial reports where laboratory blood analysis shows a dramatic drop in viral "counts". I myself have had lengthly correspondance with a few individuals who have been using colloidal silver, successfully, for in excess of three years in combating AIDS. One reported case bears repeating, as it demonstrates both the promise and the problem: Individual is clinically diagnosed with AIDS and given only a few months to live. Individual learns of colloidal silver and purchases a simple battery generator. As time passes, the symptoms of AIDS are elleviated completely. MD is at a loss for an explanation, but insists it is not the silver. 6.5 years pass, individuals T-cell counts and viral loads remain excellent, but the condition is not "cured". MD "infectuous disease specialist" has monitored the condition during this time. Individual finally gets upset at MD and stops taking the silver to prove to MD that the silver is responsible for the good health. Within a matter of a few short months, the individual becomes very ill, and the T-cell counts rapidly begin to drop. MD states that it is not due to the lack of silver, but to start taking it again anyway. Individual starts back on the CS, but the condition is not as responsive as before. T-cell counts and viral loads start to stabilize, but the individual continues to have significant problems with eye sight, fatigue, and general well being. I was working to help the individual improve both CS production and use, when the individual stopped corresponding. The problem with these viral conditions, when it is effective, it can only be effective in parts of the body it can reach. This partial effectiveness is not an isolated event: http://www.health-truth.com/articles/hiv03.asp ( also available from our links page @ http://www.silvermedicine.org/links.html ) To quote ( more comments follow the quote ): "...Dr. Clark used her own unique electronic testing to determine the presence of the virus in the body and also did some HIV antigen testing. She confirmed that her patients tested negative for the HIV antigen after doing her program. Her program consisted of a parasite cleanse and a strict avoidance of many personal care items, household cleaners, foods and drinks that may contain the offending chemicals. I supervised hundreds of people through her program. Most found her program impossible to do. However, those who did follow it, even those that followed it poorly, did improve tremendously. In addition to the improvements, we did obtain approximately 30 cases of HIV antigens moving to negative after doing the program..." and yet further: "...Around this time, the new HIV viral load test became available. The viral load test was billed as the most accurate test for the virus. The test measured the exact amounts of DNA of the virus in the blood. The test was designed to be used in cases where new HIV treatments were being tested for effectiveness. It was supposed to be the definitive "word" on the virus' activity. I had many of the antigen negative HIV patients go for the viral load test. To my horror, none of these patients had test scores in the negative range, which is what I was expecting. I spoke to one of the developers of the test for several hours one night by telephone. I explained to him the research I and Dr. Clark had been doing and the results of the viral load tests on these patients. Very graciously, he consoled me into confronting that Dr. Clark's program was not making people HIV negative. It was surely helping them, but not making them negative. At this point I went back to the drawing board. I remained level headed enough to see that while Dr. Clark's program may not be making people HIV negative, it still was helping people a great deal, so there were things right about it and truth to be had in it. Driving to the office one morning, I listened to a fellow colleague's radio show. He was interviewing a researcher who had cured Lyme's disease using colloidal silver. Silver was used in the late I 800's and was a cure for infections and syphilis prior to antibiotics. The effectiveness of silver ties in how small you can make the silver particle. The smaller it is, the more effective it will be as it can enter any germ and kill it. In the old days, they were not able to make the silver small enough to allow its passage into all germs, thereby killing them. The silver being produced today can be made so small that the particles can enter any germ. This has made it equal to, and in some cases, more effective then antibiotics. The silver particles are so small, and the actual of silver in the product is so little, that there is no known toxicity for these products. The researcher mentioned that he had tested silver against HIV in a test tube and it had killed it. I then had the idea to try silver on these HIV patients and monitor them with the viral load tests. I was careful to only use silver that had been tested by independent labs and had its effectiveness verified. In addition to the silver, I gave them some other supportive factors. After 6 months of working on this protocol, it was completed. and further ( after Dr. Biamonte outlines the he used some of Clark's protocols, then introduced Olive Leaf Extract and colloidal silver, as well as other natural antivirals ): After several months on this program, we had many of the HIV patients go back to do another viral load test. Many of them showed an amazing increase in the test score which should be a bad indication, However, The next time they took the test the scores bad plunged 50% lower then they were originally. Several researchers have advised me that this is because the viral test is measuring dead virus. The increased amount of dead virus is making the score go up on the first test . The test cannot tell the difference between living viruses and dead viruses. When the virus dies, its cells open up and pour DNA out into the blood, On all the following viral load tests the counts continued to drop drastically. After an average of 8 months to 1 year on this program, 90% of the patients are reporting that their viral load tests are scoring less than 400 copies, which in English means the HIV virus is no longer detectable The majority of these patients were not on any medications or mainstream treatment of any kind. I have noticed that if the patients are tested during a time when they have a flu or cold, their T-cells and viral load scores are temporarily worsened. We have also found that blending extra virgin olive oil with pieces of whole lemon (rind, skin, pulp, juice and seeds) has helped patients regain lost weight and may even raise T-cells. This is, in fact, an old remedy for colds and flu's from Italy. I am recommending to all of the patients who have had their viral load tests change to undetectable, that they stay on the protocol for at least an additional year. The virus may still be in the body in tiny amounts, hidden somewhere deep in the lymphatic tissue. Continuing this program for another year ensures that the virus will be fully eliminated and never returned. Future research will require that patients go off the protocol and subsequently retest with the viral load to confirm that the virus does not return. I would recommend that they retest every 3 months for at least one year after stopping the protocol. Stopping the protocol, however, may be unnecessary. There is no confirmed or well-documented toxicity of colloidal silver or any substance that we are using. I mentioned earlier that there has been a small percentage of people who did not respond. The interesting thing about this is those who do not respond show no improvement at all. I am speculating that their lack of improvement may come from incomplete or unsuccessful parasite treatment, or they may be getting chronically re-infected with the virus from a sexual partner. For the over 90% who do respond, this is a very exciting discovery which mill give many people great hope. Michael Biamonte holds a Doctorate of Nutripathy, a Degree in Natural Healing, and a Master's in Clinical Nutrition..." [ end quote ] It is obvious and quite profound what, between Dr. Clark and Biamonte's work, is revealed: A cure for a chronic disease lies just as much in the process of life as it does in the substances used to address a condition. Without the cleansing of the body, there is little hope of full and sustained recovery-- whether this happens naturally as the body recovers from trauma or injury, or whether a much more concerted effort is needed. Time and sustained effort are both required. We are slowly gearing for our own studies of viral conditions. One of our goals is to find a cost effective and simple way to recreate the results that combinational therapies, such as the one above, achieve. The combination of H2O2 in oral use, or the combination of H2O2 and silver in IV use, may do a more thorough job of knocking virii out, but this is truly not known for certain. Best Regards, Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: ascottsil...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: CS>Virus From: Heidrun Beer <conc...@atnet.at> To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>West Nile Virus <snip> I thought the C/S is killing bacteria? Is it effective against viruses too? Not to the best of my knowledge. CS seems to eliminate the side effects of bacteria that are caused by viruses (such as bronchitis or pneumonia) but not the virus itself. I think a guy named Robert O Becker claimed that CS killed 650 different pathogens in his book "The Body Electric". Were they viruses, bacteria or just his best guess? He didn't say. This may have caused a lot of confusion. I would like to submit the idea that people who take CS and don't get colds (myself included) still get the virus, they just don't know it. The CS kills the bacteria caused by the virus. There are no bacteria fighting the white blood cells and putting toxins in the lymphatic system causing a herx syndrome (fever, muscle ache, headache, etc). I have seen lots of testimonials about what CS can do, but I haven't seen any real studies that show that it lowers or eliminates PCR viral loads. Bleach will kill viruses in a petrie dish but what is that worth? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
