Are you implying that if you switch the polarity at a 1 second rate for a setup 
using approximately 30 volts that you would not have to use a stirrer?  That 
the silver would disperse into the water sufficiently so that stirring would 
not be necessary?  Or would you still need some sort of stirring?

Also, what electrode spacing do you recommend and what are the implications of 
the different electrode spacings?




Re: CS>Am I doing it wrong?
From: Marshall Dudley (view other messages by this author) 
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:52:32 



A flyback will not work properly.  The voltage needed is proportional to the 
frequency, and a
flyback operates at around 16 KHZ.  You can use about one cycle per minute for 
30 Volts, and
60 at 10 KV.  For 15 KHZ it would likely take millions of volts.  Remember you 
have to suck
the ions far enough away from the electrode for a signinficant number of them 
to not be
sucked back during the reverse half cycle for it to work properly.

Marshall

Jim wrote:

> We have an electronics store locally that has lots of used transformers
> neon sign, or possibly a fly back transformer.  I've got plenty of time,
> and like to experiment, I'll go see what I can get.
>
> Jim
>
> Marshall Dudley wrote:
> > Pretty easy to do with a 15KV neon sign transformer.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > Jim wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Sounds like an interesting project to build a 10,000 V AC generator.  I
> >>might give it a try.
> >>
> >>Thanks Marshall
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>Marshall Dudley wrote:
> >>
> >>>Jim wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I should have said gold, I've made it fast and the color is gold, if I
> >>>>make it extremely slow, the color is clearer.  I've tried 15 V ac with
> >>>>no results, I use a 17 V DC power supply and use resistance to limit the
> >>>>current to slow the process down.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I used 30 VAC one time for over a week and got nothing. Unless you have 
> >>>enough
voltage

> >>>to pull the ions fairly far from the anode during a half cycle, they get 
> >>>sucked
right

> >>>back to it when it is the cathode and redeposited.  Typically when using 
> >>>AC,
one uses

> >>>about 10,000 volts.
> >>>
> >>>Marshall