Check the archives for great reading. There is no real agreement on this list as to whether ionic or colloid is best, since everything contains some of both, and everything works, it is hard to say for sure which is doing the work.
But there is no doubt from Robert Becker's work that the ionic is important for the cell dedifferentiation. Most of us think that the ionic is best for healing, and colloid is best for killing pathogens, and that a combination is likely best for topical applications which likely require both, but there is no hard data to really even back that up I am aware of. I think that if you are mixing with DMSO for transport, then I think that works primarily with the ionic. Marshall Jim wrote: > You've been a great help so far Marshall, what is the difference between > ionic and colloid? Should CS be made more colloid, ionic or does it > matter? Maybe you could refer me to some good reading on the subject. > > Jim > > Marshall Dudley wrote: > > Sounds right to me. The tester will only test the ionic part, not the true > > CS part. So if theirs > > is about 35% ionic and 65% colloid, that is exactly what I would expect. > > > > Marshall > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > >>Maybe I should do some more research before proceeding. I do have > >>another question though. > >> > >>I bought 3 bottles of CS from Utopia Silver, then decided to make my own > >>so I bought some silver rods and a CS tester that was supposed to > >>measure the PPM. The first thing that I did when the tester arrived > >>was to measure the PPM of the Utopia CS and it showed 7PPM, their site > >>said it was 20 PPM. I wrote to them and their response was that home > >>made CS was more ionic and the tester was callibrated for home made > >>silver not commercial made. What does this mean and does it sound like > >>they are simply selling 7 PPM and representing it to be 20 PPM? > >> > >>Thanks again, > >> > >>Jim > >> > >>Marshall Dudley wrote: > >> > >>>A flyback will not work properly. The voltage needed is proportional to > >>>the frequency, and a > >>>flyback operates at around 16 KHZ. You can use about one cycle per minute > >>>for 30 Volts, and > >>>60 at 10 KV. For 15 KHZ it would likely take millions of volts. Remember > >>>you have to suck > >>>the ions far enough away from the electrode for a signinficant number of > >>>them to not be > >>>sucked back during the reverse half cycle for it to work properly. > >>> > >>>Marshall > >>> > >>>Jim wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>We have an electronics store locally that has lots of used transformers > >>>>neon sign, or possibly a fly back transformer. I've got plenty of time, > >>>>and like to experiment, I'll go see what I can get. > >>>> > >>>>Jim > >>>> > >>>>Marshall Dudley wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Pretty easy to do with a 15KV neon sign transformer. > >>>>> > >>>>>Marshall > >>>>> > >>>>>Jim wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Sounds like an interesting project to build a 10,000 V AC generator. I > >>>>>>might give it a try. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks Marshall > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Jim > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Marshall Dudley wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Jim wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I should have said gold, I've made it fast and the color is gold, if I > >>>>>>>>make it extremely slow, the color is clearer. I've tried 15 V ac with > >>>>>>>>no results, I use a 17 V DC power supply and use resistance to limit > >>>>>>>>the > >>>>>>>>current to slow the process down. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>I used 30 VAC one time for over a week and got nothing. Unless you > >>>>>>>have enough voltage > >>>>>>>to pull the ions fairly far from the anode during a half cycle, they > >>>>>>>get sucked right > >>>>>>>back to it when it is the cathode and redeposited. Typically when > >>>>>>>using AC, one uses > >>>>>>>about 10,000 volts. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Marshall > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>-- > >>>>>>>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > >>>>>>>silver. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > >
