I don't see how doing the salt test can display any quantitive results
unless the exact amount of salt were known and the exact amount of precipitate.
It might be a useful addition to looking at the TE with a laser, but like
looking at TE, there's no way to really communicate what "heavy" or
"Lite" "Strong/weak" is in a meaningful manner. Just how milky is very milky?
Opinion based on observation is always personal and relative.
Interpretation will have to be broad based.
Sometimes when two people are looking at the very same item in the same
room in the same light from the same angle, even then they argue.
Faradays calculations could give a theoretical maximum PPM.
I would agree that if a lab test went over that max, something could be amiss.
There are many things that could account for a result under the
calculated PPM.
Not everything is visible and available to the eyeball.
Ode
At 05:44 PM 6/19/2003 -0400, you wrote:
url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60387.html
Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS Redux
From: M. G. Devour
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 04:27:53
> I may have missed it, but, Mike, have you had analyses done yet to
> determine the ionic/particulate ratio and total silver
> concentration?
Mike,
Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention.
No, I have not sent anything to a lab. I agree with Ken:
"Welcome to the wonderful world of infallable science where no two
labs can agree on anything and no two processes even come close."
"A PWT only reads ions for sure...maybe correctly and maybe not.
Depends on what lab results you compare the readings to."
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60223.html
However, I have asked Robert to make the same thing and let us know
his results.
In the final analysis, what we are looking for is consistency and
repeatability.
Three feet of 12 ga wire cut in half should give about 3.8 square
inches of wetted area for the anode and cathode. I run at 335 uA, so
the current density is around 87 uA/sq. in.
With medium quality dw, a current regulator would be nice, but is
not needed. A simple resistor to 12 Volts or more should regulate
the current to 20% or better. This is good enough. It will repeat
the same curve as long as the dw is the same.
If we use 1/2 litre of water or so, all we need is to calculate the
time needed to reach a target ppm.
Here's the equations and results for 425 millilitres of dw on my
system:
I = 335e-6 ; current in Amperes
k = 107.88 / 96500 ; electrochemical equivalent of silver
lt = 0.425 ; liters
ppm = 20 ; desired ppm
C = I * sec ; Coulombs
gm = lt * ppm / 1000 ; grams of silver deposited
sec = (lt * ppm) / (1000 * k * I)
hrs = sec / 3600
Solution
I = +0.0003350000000
k = +0.0011179274611
lt = +0.4250000000000
ppm = +20.000000000000
C = +7.6033555802744
sec = +22696.583821714
gm = +0.0085000000000
hrs = +6.3046066171429
Six hours might seem a long time compared to current practise, but
as long as the production rate exceeds the consumption rate, it
really doesn't matter how long it takes. If you only need a mouthful
every three or four days, 1/2 litre should serve a small family for
a week.
One advantage of the long brew time is you don't have to worry about
going shopping and returning an hour late. The cs will be a bit
stronger, but you won't have to throw it out as you would with
higher current densities.
Very little black crud is deposited on the electrodes. I get a bit
on the anode and none on the cathode. The cs is crystal clear, and
nothing plates out on the glass containing it. So you don't have to
spend time cleaning with H2O2.
The salt test is excellent confirmation of the strength. From the
dissociation of salt in water:
NaCl(s) + H2O ---> Na(+)(aq) + Cl(-)(aq)
A silver ion reacts with a chlorine ion to form silver chloride:
Ag(+)(aq) + Cl(-)(aq) ---> AgCl(s)
The silver chloride is insoluble in water and precipitates out as a
white solid. This creates a dispersion that indicates the strength
of the cs. At 20 ppm calculated, the effect is quite strong.
So, anyone with a dvm and some salt should be able to duplicate
these results fairly well.
Best Regards,
Mike Monett
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