If you can find the files, you can generally get rid of them. [delete]
 If you delete something and a program doesn't run anymore...reload.
 
 If it don't look like it belongs there, blast it off the map. If that
doesn't work, corral friends and family into a safe place, blast the map
off the map and load a new one.
 Kill everything and let the CDs sort it all out.
That's the 'shotgun' approach to computer problems.

Ode

At 07:05 PM 8/7/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Mike:
>
>Thanks for the tips.
>
>I've downloaded two of the programs, including Trojan Horse, which tells me
>I have 7 suspicious files, but doesn't eliminate them.  (I guess I have to
>buy it to get to eliminate them.)
>
>I also used HouseCall, which found no viruses.  I also defragged, cleaned
>tmp files, and tidied up disc space.  It's running faster, but still screwy.
>
>Something is definitely affecting my computer.  I hope I eliminate it before
>it drives me nuts.
>
>Thanks again,  Bill
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "M. G. Devour" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 7:09 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Anti-Virus program -- OT
>
>
>> > What's the best dianostic for viruses?  I've got updated Norton and
>> > AVG, but still something has screwed up my computer.  Any ideas?
>>
>> I've used Trend Micro's PC-Cillin. They also have a free online virus
>> checker called House Call, which you can access from their site. I've
>> used that as well.
>>
>>    Visit:  http://www.antivirus.com
>>
>> In addition, I recently dealt with a trojan that snuck into my machine
>> with something I downloaded from a newsgroup. It installed itself and
>> was interfering with the tools I needed to get rid of it, but hopefully
>> the firewall in my DSL box stopped it connecting anywhere.
>>
>> A few things I found useful were:
>>
>> ** Trojan Hunter from http://www.misec.net/   ... free trial available.
>> It's good enough I may go ahead and pay and register. They also have a
>> program called Autostart Explorer that shows you what's being executed
>> on boot-up. This found the suspicious file.
>>
>> ** TCPView from http://www.sysinternals.com shows you the TCP port
>> connections that your machine is currently hosting.
>>
>> ** Spybot Search & Destroy from http://spybot.eon.net.au/  ... takes
>> care of any adware/spyware that's lurking on your system, and can be
>> set up to block a lot of known threats when browsing.
>>
>> *******  GREAT SITE:  http://www.helponthe.net/ and
>> http://forums.techguy.org/  ... Really good resource for help with the
>> nitty gritty technical stuff. A lot of questions you might want to ask
>> have already been answered if you do a search. The gurus appear to be
>> very attentive and skilled.
>>
>> Hope that helps. Compute safely.
>>
>> Be well,
>>
>> Mike D.
>>
>> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
>> [[email protected]                        ]
>> [Speaking only for myself...               ]
>>
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