Hi Harvey, Yes, I used the electrodes in a V shape and arc about 1 1/2" underwater. The electrodes enter the water through glass tubes and are only exposed about 3/16" in the water. It is hard to keep the arc going. Most likely because I'm using a 9 KV / 60 Ma. NST. A 15 KV would have been a better choice but I bought a new but not needed unit and got a very good price. Probably need to get the higher voltage unit.
I use water cooling and make 1 liter at a time. Without cooling the water really heats up. I'm of the opinion that CG cannot be made using LVDC even though there are some who claim they can do so. My questions to all of those who say they can do it is this....does the gold deteriorate and what is the color of the CG. I have not heard anyone say the CG was a violet or red color as I believe it must be if there is in fact any gold in the water. I also haven't heard anyone say the electrodes deteriorate when they make what they call CG that is colorless. I think they are deluding themselves. Trem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harvey Norris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 1:30 AM Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold > > --- Trem <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater > > arcing. It sometimes comes out violet and sometimes > > more of a gray color but it's always crystal clear . > > It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this. > > Does anyone else make it using HVAC and if so would > > you be interested in comparing notes? Off list will > > be fine unless others want to hear too. > > > > I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but > > the PWT reads between 8 and 10 usually. And it > > doesn't seem to be any different on the two colors. > > > > I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes > > with others about their responses to it. > > > > Trem > > [email protected] > > > Due to all the hoopla about N03 with AC high voltage > arcing methods, I would wonder does an underwater arc > avoid some of these ojections about combination with > nitrogen in the atmosphere? I did not know that a NST > could produce an underwater arc. Did you have problems > with the arc skirting the water surface instead, and > did you use wires in a V formation for the underwater > arc? I did note that early testing of high voltage AC > without an arc, (as in DC methods), the water would > heat up and hardly no colloidal effects showed up. ( > This was with silver, not gold) Back then however due > to the unique way I was generating the high voltage, > it was possible to use a single high voltage > electrode, with the opposite electrode not immersed in > the water, but given as a metal plate the glass rests > on. This then allows for a very "high" current > limitation by the dielectric of the intervening glass > and water. A very poor method of introducing colloids, > but I was able to photograph some colloids falling > from a single silver coin with this method. Do you see > any problems with just using the conventional low > voltage DC method for CG? What about using gold as the > passive Positive anode for a conventional Silver-Gold > collodial solution? Does consensus indicate that the > positive electrode contributes practically no > colloids? Visual observations seem to indicate a doubt > on this matter, which if then true we might expect a > mixture of both colloids? > Pardon my ignorance of electrochemistry here, just > wondering about a few things regarding the gold thing. > > HDN > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
