Silver Listers,

We have discussed the yellow tint many times on the list. I now believe
after some amateur research into Silver Colloid texts the yellowing is due
to
silver lumps, anions, ions whatever the preferred term/s is -- is due to
sliver
sintered off during the brewing electrolosis -- being larger or above 30
Angstroms
and this gives the yellow tint.

Forgive me if I'm off the mark and do correct me!

In my own brewing I'm always pleased when my CS remains clear. Although
along the way I've made my share of the 'yellow stuff" and consumed it
anyway!
Haven't game been enough to use H2O2 in my CS. Something to try sometime.
Am familiar with H2O2's other great Oxygen therapy uses.

I remain yours in SILvation, Douglas Haack



Mike Monett wrote:

> url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62773.html
> CS>Half gallon brew
> From: Dan Nave
> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 13:02:15
>
>   Hi Dan,
>
>   I guess  you  are using fairly low  current  density,  otherwise you
>   wouldn't see  the  gray sludge. You would  be  getting  black silver
>   oxide instead.
>
>   The gray  sludge  is formed at the cathode  where  silver  ions have
>   picked up  an  electron  to become  atoms.  These  tend  to surround
>   hydrogen bubbles  that  also form at the cathode.  It  makes  a gray
>   sludge that can hang down from the cathode in small whiskers.
>
>   I use  the formation of these whiskers as an indication the  brew is
>   finished. If you let it go much longer, the voltage across  the cell
>   starts to flatten, which indicates the silver ions are  forming gray
>   sludge, and also forming silver oxide in the Nernst  diffusion layer
>   at both electrodes.
>
>   The silver  oxide, Ag2O, will combine to form larger  particles that
>   give the cs a yellow tint.
>
>   If you get a yellow tint to the solution, you can add a bit  of H2O2
>   to the  cs  and see an interesting  reaction.  Whack  the electrodes
>   first to  break the gray whiskers so they fall to the bottom  of the
>   jar.
>
>   Soon after you add the H2O2, the yellow tint disappears.  This shows
>   the H2O2 acts as a catalyst to convert the silver oxide to ions:
>
>     2Ag2O + H2O2 --> 4Ag(+) + O2(g) + H2O2
>
>   You may  start to notice bits of gray sludge rising to  the surface,
>   then falling  back  down to the bottom. This is caused  by  the H2O2
>   reacting with  the pure silver to form ions and  oxygen.  The oxygen
>   bubbles make  the  gray bits rise to the surface,  where  the bubble
>   breaks and the bit falls back down.
>
>   This reaction is quite different from the prevous one:
>
>     2Ag + 2H2O2 --> 2Ag(+) + O2(g) + 2H2O
>
>   The H2O2  is  consumed to form oxygen and water,  plus  silver ions.
>   This reaction  is very slow, and it takes a lot of  H2O2  to convert
>   even a tiny amount of pure silver to ions.
>
>   I don't  worry about the gray sludge. I just give  the  electrodes a
>   good whack  before removing them from the solution so  they  fall to
>   the bottom  of the jar. I leave them in the  jar  while transferring
>   the cs to another container, then dump them in the sink.
>
>   The gray  sludge is harmless if you happen to drink it.  It  is pure
>   silver and will simply pass through the body without interacting.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
>
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