## Then another guy stands up twice and says, "Things do happen all at once, we just have mechanisms to sort them out in a linear fashion".
Ode > >And then some guy in the back of the room stands up and says, "Time >was invented so things don't happen all at once." > >See what I mean? > > > >>If you haven't read this "paper": >> >>http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilveruniversal.html >> >>You might find some interesting information embedded within the text! >> >>In particular: >> >>"Taken together, these facts may be of utmost importance to the human body's >>strategic use of silver with the plethora of endogenous ROTS ( Radical >>Oxygen Toxic Species ) and antioxidant pathways. In other words, if silver >>intervenes with pathogens as an ion associated within WBC generated ROTS, >>the thermodynamic attributes of the ROTS may enhance immune efficacy that >>utilize ROTS to autolyse pathogens, such as: OCl-, the peroxide cascade, NO, >>superoxide radical, etc. On the other side of the equation, mammalian tissue >>contains antioxidants that tame such ROTS, such as cysteine, selenium, >>glutathione, vitamin E, etc. >>a.. And finally we must consider what happens after our inherent tissues' >>antioxidants reversibly quench silver. At the starting point, a pure silver >>ion or colloidal silver aggregate with zeta potential binds into pathogens >>or tissue by losing its charge. In cases where human WBC antioxidant levels >>are adequate, the deceased pathogen may be phagocytized by a megakaryocyte. >>Within the immune cell, this process may be reversible when certain >>antioxidants are present such as glutathione, selenium or >>N--acetylcysteine.40 This allows for a potential recycling of the metallic >>silver particle back into a silver ion, which in turn can thrust another >>available silver ion at a prospective pathogen, perhaps freed by the immune >>cell upon respiratory burst, or by integrating within its strategic >>intracellular ROTS cascade autolysing phagocytized pathogens. Previous work >>done with silver sulfadiazine showed it did not have a significant impact >>upon neutrophilic respiratory burst at clinical dosage levels.41 However, >>the product selected in this study appears to possess at least several >>orders of magnitude greater potential, due to its smaller particle size and >>dispersion. Further work needs to verify this theory regarding this >>product." >> >>I agree with your summation of the origin of MSP, and its historical use. >>However, it hard to predict what would, or would not happen, with MSP used >>orally. It does, from every end user report that I have seen, maintain at >>least of measure of effectiveness. I've also, however, received more >>reports of strange side effects from MSP than anything else out there, and >>one shouldn't think that there is a "risk" of Argyria; there is no "risk"; >>when used as directed by some of these companies, one will get argyria. >>Some MSP providers suggest a very low dosage, which keeps silver intake >>below EPA-RISK established toxicity levels. However, users seldom follow >>the instructions, and I question whether or not a drop of mild silver >>protein @ 750 - 5000 PPM would be effective via oral use. >> >>I find it very hard to speculate on isolated silver's action in the body; >>what exactly transpires which allows highly ionic CS to maintain >>effectiveness. Concerning the "modern chemistry view" of what happens to >>silver upon ingestion, there really isn't one. I have not been able to >>substantiate the basic statements like ionic silver is converted to silver >>chloride, end of story, when I've had brief opportunities to pose the >>question to qualified organic chemists. Two told me that they could think >>of a dozen possible reactions in-vivo that would possibly explain maintained >>bioavailability of silver ions, but that speculation really wasn't that >>valueable without extensive study. It would be nice to find an organic >>chemist that could -- and would -- do the work! >> >>Silver ions have a have life of seven seconds ( or less ) in the >>bloodstream. This is a good point. However, anectdotal evidence suggests >>that at some point, the "silver ion" may again be liberated. It's hard to >>say one way or the other, but the mounting evidence suggests that there is >>more to the story than silver ions becoming silver chloride. >> >>Best Regards, >> >>Jason >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Matthew McCann PE >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:19 PM >>Subject: CS>Oligodynamism >> >> >>Hi, Jason, >> >>Thanks for your valuable information! >> >>I wonder if the original purpose of MPS is >>being neglected. According to Searle, Henry >>Crooke invented MPS in 1910-1913 and it >>wasn't for stabilization during storage before >>being dispensed. If I am reading Searle >>correctly, Crooke wanted CS to be stabilized >>for isotonicity in the presence of serum >>following an intravenous or intramuscular >>administration. If I am correct, perhaps MPS >>for CS that will be taken orally is just a >>big waste, or worse. Searle suggests on >>page 56 of his book that chlorine ions >>contribute essentially to the stabilization >>of some sols. Could it be possible that >>gastric HCl protects CS, rather than destabilizing >>or destroying it. It seems counter to familiar >>principles of chemistry except that, after all, >>colloids are a separate physical state, not >>just ordinary chemical reagents. >> >>I would like to know more about your reference >>to non-hertzian energy or standing waves. Do >>these have anything to do with scalar longitudinal >>waves that have been attributed to Maxwell's >>equations in their quaternionic formulation? >> >>Your quoted material from Dr Savely Yurkovsky >>is very intriguing. Do you know him personally? >>I am just curious because I may be going to his former >>neighborhood (Coney Island-Brighton Beach, >>"Little Odessa") soon to study technical Ukrainian >>for a biomedical translation project. The author of >>the preface of his book is well-known and >>respected in my field. >> >>Best regards, >> >>Matthew >> >> >>-- >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >>Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org >> >>To post, address your message to: [email protected] >> >>Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
