>Ideas chasing their own tails, eh?
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>It's believable to me.
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>There you go, involving me in your strange loops. :)
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>stuff


  How else would an idea know it exists?
We project our faulty versions of the meanings placed on memories of the
past into the future to define the present that our senses are far too slow
to experience, to prove to ourselves that there is an us to do it.

 Everything is a self validating feedback loop.

..thus, my eyes unknowingly wink at each other and i think i know what the
joke is because it looks to me that my eyes can see.
 But they can't.
 I only know the image that I build up in my head based on the loop I've
constructed.
 Newborn babies cannot see forms.  Not because their eyes have yet to
develop, but because [having not constructed very much memory of meaning
yet] they have not assigned meaning to the eye data.
 No real screen of context to project the image into...
 A new born that has no eye function builds a completely different
universe. If that child develops eyesight later, it must learn to translate
it into relevent meaning before it can, say, distinguish a ball from a cube
without touching it.
 That can take years...even be a source of difficulty for life.

 If how you learned to see things suddenly becomes unapplicable or too
obviously dysfunctional, your whole world dissolves around you and your
sense of "you" with it.
 It's not a wonder that people resist change and deny new information.

 LSD and other psychotropic substances teach a person that their identity
is not really tied up in who they think they are, that new ways of thinking
are just as valid as any.
..and all ways are 'made up'

 The threat to a society is that there's no way to predict what new
universe that person who has loosened attachments to socially programmed
meanings will create and one who does not follow the "way" threatens the
validation loop of everyone who does.

 A society that's formed in a context of individualism [no set "way"]
verses adherence to, say, a universal religious tradition takes to change
much more easily.  The tradition sees anything but itself as a threat to
all of the followers while the individual, who is less well defined, sees
it as an opportunity. 

 What is universally true must be true in all circumstances or it's not
universal.

 The prophet and infidel must die or his vision will become true.
 If he is killed, the killers already believe it is true. [or they wouldn't
bother]

 Personally, I thinks few tons of LSD would help matters drastically.
I guess the only question about it is... who it would help do what.
 That's not something that ANY of the "powers that be" would want to risk
tossing into the air.
 They just might wind up eating their own tail.  
More than a few wound up with a nibble back in the 60s and 70s. [Too many
prophets to kill, while doing so, validates the prophets prophecy]

 PS.   The 'Hippies' didn't sell out, they bought in. 
 Implosion is an internal affair.  It happens , unseeable, without a sound.
 Even those who are working the change don't generally know they are.  ;-)
Ode




At 08:55 AM 2/11/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>At 06:33 AM 2/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>I'm the easiest person on the planet for me to lie to.
>>  I know my every trick and use them accordingly.
>>  Then I deny I did, then deny I denied it.
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>>  No matter how crazy,  Everything I believe ...is believable [to me].
>>  Go FIGGER!
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