At 07:22 AM 4/25/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Ode,
>Good Comment.  I remember Dr. Len Horowitz talking about his father - who
>smoked, imbibed, and enjoyed good food.  If I recall correctly, he did
>within days or a weeks of his wife's passing - both in their late 80's or
>early 90's.  An autopsy was performed because it was so 'quick'.  They were
>shocked - his body was riddled with cancer and they were amazed he had
>survived for years with such extensive disease.  Regardless, Horowitz said
>his father did not die of cancer nor a heart attack.  He died of a broken
>heart.  Without her, his life no longer had meaning or purpose.  Be aware of
>your inner most thoughts for they will create your life.

..whether you are aware of them or not....
I've had 3 good friends die in the past few years.
2 with cancer they didn't know they had.
Both took 6 days after diagnosis.
 One just keeled over at 76 while delivering phone books.
 He told us the Tuesday before that if we came over one Tuesday and saw a
pair of smoking shoes, we'd know what happened.
 [Ode]

>Christine. 
>
>> From: Ode Coyote <[email protected]>
>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:27:35 -0400
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: CS>the vital placebo effect in ms etc
>> Resent-From: [email protected]
>> Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 06:24:03 -0700
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Why do some people who never pay any attention to healthy living, live to
>> be very old with no medical problems?
>> I think that  medicine, health and illness, all, are symbolic in nature.
>> This would fit perfectly into the context of a symbolic reality.
>> 
>> Experience is real, the reality that experience takes place in isn't.
>> [Whatever you experience is irrelevant to the reality..sorta.]
>> 
>> Ode
>> 
>> At 08:38 PM 4/25/2004 +1000, you wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>> The most frustrating thing in scientific controlled testing is placebo
>> effect.
>>> When testing a drug three groups are needed:
>>> 1. Get the drug
>>> 2. Get a fake (water)
>>> 3. Get nothing, told nothing, just observed normally. ( vis ordinary
>>> population with that symptom set)
>>> It is CLINICALLY  recognised that up to 30% of the groups 2 and 3 will
>>> improve/self-cure.
>>> BTW: MOST drugs approved today are approved on efficacy rates as low as
>>> 20%.........
>>> ****************** WHY do the 30% recover?
>>> They are actually observable to anyone with open eyes (3rd ones?).  These
>>> are the positive ones.
>>> It would appear that even the most die-hard should accept that the mind is
>>> a powerful component of all healing, thus it is highly likely that
negative
>>> states promote negative health.........
>>> 
>>> Sadly, one group with whom I've had most contact have 100% termination
rate
>>> UNLESS they self-manage their affliction and my observation is that "cause
>>> often shows the cure".
>>> Not even quarts of CS can help a negative mind!
>>> Nor can even a positive mind can help if the afflicted stays in the zones
>>> that created the illness.  ( Modern food, modern drugs, modern lifestyle)
>>> 
>>> In watching almost a thousand successful cures of the big C , every one
>>> that was successful *absolutely* required a total lifestyle overhaul -
>>> otherwise it *does* come back and the worst form of re-infection is from
>>> the mind.
>>> 
>>> Big C, MS, Lyme, whatever your case, unless massively interfered with by
>>> modern medicine, you can leave it behind.
>>> 
>>> Signed:
>>> "Dead Man Walking"  (20 years later)
>
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