Evening Dan and Peter,

Summer is around the corner.

Some of our friendly biting insects are around the whole year. I was bitten at the end of November.

>> I just went out and bought a piezoelectric igniter for a gas grill.
Cost about $15.

The genuine thing, the Stun Gun, cost about the same. Better ones are a bit more.

>>  I plan to use this on any tick or mosquito bites I get...

So, ..... you are betting you don't get bit by one of the really bad critters. <grin>

[ Peter ]  Anybody can has any suggestions how to measure the current?

    I mentioned "time intervals" and no one seemed concerned.

Based on my observations, I would think the duration of the voltages from these igniters are from 150 to 300 mili seconds, maximum. Possibly you could produce multiple firings to approximate the two seconds.

You could build an adjustable air gap with an alternate path and see how large the gap could be and the voltage still jump the gap. I still have a transistor Ignition I built in the 60's that will fire a 5/8 inch air gap in a test distributor turning 5000 rpm. This will outperform these ignitors by about 5000 to one I would guess. I could build this in a nice compact box and would not need a stun gun. Actually, this unit was very expensive to build in 1963. Guess what? I still have the tube of heat sink compound I purchased for this project. I used it on lots of CPU heat sinks until the manufacturers woke up and started adding it.

The wattage of these type ignitors varies. Likely they are in the 15 to 30 watt range, maybe less. Units can be had up to 50 and 100 watts.

Still, these are a far cry from the total wattage delivered by a two second pulse from the stun gun.

If you want to use these for minor stings which never give me a second thought, please don't make the mistake of thinking this is adequate for a spider or snake bite. Fire ants bite me weekly. I have watched a large red wasp sting me on the leg until I felt he had done all he could do. I simply flipped him off and did not kill him. I said, "Thank you, another immune system test".

I read one article describing how the high voltage destroys the molecular structure of the venom. Changing the molecular structure is no small task. It cannot be accomplished without some pain.

No Pain, NO Gain !

I wanted to make an effort to calculate the Watt Seconds of the ignitors as compared to the stun guns.
AT this time, I don't have the information to do it with the ignitors.

Stun guns are stated to deliver 1 ma to less than 4 ma. If we take an average of 2ma, We have .002 X 25,000 = 50 X 2 seconds would be 100 Watt Seconds. Many factors may reduce this. or change the overall performance. Of course the resistance of 5 to 8 inches of flesh ( my leg ) will change any calculations. Considering that I got 5 shocks near two seconds, I had a reasonable amount of wattage delivered to upset the molecular structure of the venom.

Suggested time for the 50,000 Volt stun gun is one second to equal the above numbers.

Likely mineral and electrolyte content will effect this wattage at any given time. The conductivity of my leg must have been adequate, as I recall the intensity of current flow.
Plus, I had been taking more minerals than usual for 3 weeks.

If a person is bitten by a spider or snake, it is no time to play around with unproven devices.
Get the real thing and do the job right.

Here is a file that details a 10 years spider episode that cost $ 250,000.
Talk about saving a few dollars, or not being able to stand TWO WHOLE seconds of pain !

Who is kidding themselves?

Here is the link to the 10 year spider bite, amputated finger, that keeps acting like it has been bitten again. Awesome.... to say the least. http://www.fugitt.com/spider_doc/10_year_spider.htm

I have a number of other files I will place in this same location as time permits.

Hopefully, I can find the article with details on the venom destruction by high voltage.

It may be in the archives. Seems many spider bite sites have changed within the last 5 months.

Wayne






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