Mike Monett wrote:

> CS>Sterile wash?
> From: Jonathan B. Britten
> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 05:04:56
>
>   > Silver ions in washing machines:
>
>   > http://www.samsung.com/Products/WashingMachine/Bigwash/
>
>   > WashingMachine_Bigwash_H1245AS.htm
>
>   > JBB
>
>   Hi Jonathan,
>
>   Quote from the article:
>
>     "Bigwash H1245AS Silver Nano Technology"
>
>     "Like a bath of beauty for your fabrics, Samsung's Silver  Wash is
>     an advanced washer with superb germ killing  capabilities. Imagine
>     400 billion  silver particles dissolved in water to  make  a super
>     cleaning solution that affects your clothes on an almost molecular
>     level. its purification ability of 99.9% and lasting antibacterial
>     action will redefine your idea of immaculate."
>
>     
> http://www.samsung.com/Products/WashingMachine/Bigwash/WashingMachine_Bigwash_H1245AS.htm
>
>   Sounds more  like  hogwash. 400 billion silver  ions  weigh 7.16E-08
>   milligrams. If the washer holds 10 gallons of water, it would have a
>   silver concentration  of 1.89E-09 ppm, which is below  the  limit of
>   detectability. The Mercury calculations are shown at the end.

A particle will be a number of atoms, for a typcial colloid, a particle of 
silver could contain
100 to 10,000 atoms, so your numbers would be off by 100 to 10,000.  I think 
maybe their
marketing left off a billion, the number of 400 billion billion would make more 
sense.

>
>
>   Another problem  is trying to preserve silver ions  in  dirty, soapy
>   water. There  are so many contaminants it is highly doubtful  an ion
>   would last longer than a couple of nanoseconds.
>

Ions. I see nothing about ions in their ad. It specifically says particles, 
which means colloid,
and silver particles will last indefinitely as long as they don't encounter 
hydrogen sulfide or
another sulfur compound that gives up it's sulfur easily.

>
>   The Japanese   apparently   favor   silver   for   its antibacterial
>   properties. But this approach clearly has no possible benefit.

Why would you say that. I add CS to my wash sometimes, and see no reason to 
doubt it will kill
bacteria.  After all, the water in the washing machine is much "cleaner" than 
my blood stream.
If "contaminants" make CS not work, then there is no way it would work in the 
blood stream which
is thick with solutes, which we all know it does.

Marshall

>
>
>   --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   Here is  the  Mercury solution. This shows the value  of  Mercury in
>   solving problems without having to rewrite the equations  each time.
>   This is slow, highly error-prone, and difficult to troubleshoot.
>
>   Here are the conversion factors:
>
>   Cou  = I * sec         ; total number of Coulombs
>   esec = I / 1.60217733e-19; electrons per second
>   gm   = k * I * sec     ; Faraday's equation
>   isin = esec / sqin     ; ions per sq. in. per sec
>   isnm = isin / 6.45e14  ; ions per square nanometer per sec
>   k    = 107.868 / 96485 ; Coulombs required per gram of silver
>   lt   = 3.785 * gal     ; convert gallons to litres
>   lt   = ml / 1000       ; convert millilitres to litres
>   mg   = gm * 1000       ; convert grams to milligrams
>   ml   = 29.57 * oz      ; convert ounce to milliliters
>   mnt  = 0               ; minutes
>   phr  = ppm / hrs       ; ppm per hour
>   ppm  = mg / lt         ; 1 ppm is 1 milligram per litre
>   sec  = hrs * 3600 + mnt * 60      ; convert hours to seconds
>   uAin = 1e6 * I / sqin  ; current density in uA per sq in
>
>   These are the variables:
>
>   gal  = 10              ; water capacity
>   hrs  = 1               ; dummy calculation
>   Ion  = 400e9           ; number of silver ions
>   Ion  = esec * sec      ; electrons per second * number of seconds
>   sqin = 2               ; dummy calculation
>
>   Here is the Solution:
>
>   Cou      = 3600*I
>            = +6.40870932000000E-08
>   I        = +1.78019703333333E-11
>   sec      = +3600.0000000000000
>   esec     = 6.24150636309403E+18*I
>            = +111111111.111111
>   gm       = 4.02471679535679*I
>            = +7.1647888991010E-11
>   k        = +0.00111797688759911
>   isin     = 3.12075318154701E+18*I
>            = +55555555.555556
>   sqin     = +2.0000000000000000
>   isnm     = 4838.3770256543*I
>            = +8.6132644272179E-08
>   lt       = +37.8500000000000    { = +757 / 20 }
>   gal      = +10.000000000000000
>   ml       = 29.57*oz
>            = +37850.0000000000
>   mg       = 4024.71679535679*I
>            = +7.1647888991010E-08
>   oz       = +1280.01352722354
>   mnt      =  0.0000000000000000
>   phr      = ppm
>            = +1.89294290597120E-09
>   ppm      = 106.333336733337*I
>            = +1.89294290597120E-09
>   hrs      = +1.0000000000000000
>   uAin     = 500000*I
>            = +8.9009851666667E-06
>   Ion      = +400000000000.00000
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Mike Monett
>
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