Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET From: GAllen4296 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 13:03:47 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74050.html
> Garnet, > Some time ago, like maybe a couple of years, there was quite a > lengthy discussion of what PPM of CS is needed to cure something. > As I remember, the conclusion was that ppm is largely irrelevant > 2or3 ppm being as effective as 20 or 30. There is a technical name > for this condition, but I don't remember it. Perhaps some of the > technical people know what it is so that you could find the > discussion in the archives. > GeorgeA Hi GeorgeA, I think you might be looking for the term "oligodynamic", one of Jason's favorite terms while talking about colloidal silver. The term "oligodynamic" was first used by von Nageli in 1893 to define a material "effective in small quantities." It includes heavy metals such as mercury, copper, and silver. One characteristic is extreme toxicity to bacteria, described in the following excerpt from the "British Columbia Ambient Water Quality Criteria for Silver": "Application of Criteria for Aquatic Life" "Silver is a disinfectant for non-spore forming bacteria at concentrations about 1000 times lower than the levels at which it is toxic to mammalian life. This extreme mammalian-to-bacterial toxicity differential is the definition of an oligodynamic material." "The low concentration necessary for oligodynamic activity allows silver or one of its insoluble salts to be used indefinitely in contact with sterile liquids without silver levels building up to concentrations harmful to people. The biological effects of silver are apparently due to reversible bonds with enzymes and other active molecules on the surface of cells. Due to its sulphydryl binding propensity, biologically-available silver disrupts membranes, disables proteins and inhibits enzymes. The ionic form of silver is necessary for biological activity and the lipid phase of the membrane appears to be important in adsorbing silver ions to living cells. The active sites on enzymes which are affected by silver are apparently the electron-rich functional groups such as-SH groups." http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/wat/wq/BCguidelines/silver/bcsilver-04.htm When you are young and have a healthy immune system, 2 or 3 ppm cs may be all that is needed to fend off infections and viruses. As you get older, your immune system starts degrading. Also, radiation or chemotherapy treatments, exposure to strong mold concentrations, and HIV can damage the immune system. In these situations, the typical 5 or 10 ppm cs that is obtained with the classic 3 nines cs generator is no longer effective, and you need the strongest cs you can find. From what I understand, both Ken's Silverpuppy and Trem's Silvergen can make cs of 20ppm or more. If you make your own cs generator, you may find lowering the current density will allow you to reach higher ppm. I often use 80 uA/sq.in. or so, and find the best I can get is about 22 ppm. I can push it higher, but then it may start showing a very slight yellow tint after a week or so. This is harmless, and merely indicates I have reached the limit for that quality of dw and process. It is possible to make higher ppm, but the results so far have been highly unpredictable and non-repeatable. I recently came across a different method that looks promising, but extremely dangerous. I'll try it and if it seems appropriate, I'll post the results. Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>