"Dr. David W. Kenney" wrote: > The colloidal silver would not form a salt. If it did then CS would be of > no value if used orally. However, all CS generators produce both CS and > ionic silver...the ionic silver would form silver chloride in the stomach > almost instantly...and little if any...would get into the system.
On what grounds do you base this on? Silver chloride has a solubility of about .8 ppm in water, so if you have 80% ionic silver of 5 ppm, and there is only 4 or 5 ounces of liquid in the stomach, then virtually all of it will dissolve. But even if it did not all dissolve, that which does will quickly pass into the blood stream, and what initially precipitated out will then dissolve over time. We know that silver chloride taken orally without the benefit of any colloidal part to form a nucleus to precipitate onto will cause argyria through the photographic and tollens reagent reactions. If what you say were true then that would be impossible. > > Just make a solution of salt and water...and pour it into a sample of your > CS...if there is lots of ionic silver...you will get a white precipitate Yes, fully expected since AgCl only has about a .8 ppm solubility. But add sufficient warm water and it will redissolve slowly. Add low pH HCl and you will find that the solubility goes way up. Marshall > > almost instantly... > Dr. Kenney > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Holmes [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: CS> Diet for dogs and humans > > Could the silver react with the food to produce a salt? > > Were there actual cases of Argyria or was the presumption (in error) due to > the presence of silver? > > -----Original Message----- > From: David W Kenney [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: CS> Diet for dogs and humans > > Metalic silver electrodes were used in the 70's for electrostimulation of > non-healing fractures with great success. > Check out Dr. Becker's books. Body Electric & Cross Currents. > I would speculate that a form of colloidal silver is created at the ends of > the electrodes he implants near the non-union. > Dr. Kenney > > -----Original Message----- > From: Garnet [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:27 AM > To: Silver List > Subject: Re: CS> Diet for dogs and humans > > OK I am confused, what is wrong with metallic silver? Isn't that what we > are using to make CS, metal electrodes that deposit ions and atoms of > metallic silver into the water? > > I thought it was silver COMPOUNDS that were to be avoided due to their > tendancy to accumulate in the body. Metallic silver is not a silver > compound, unless the product is not pure? Perhaps that is the issue, > contamination of these sources? > > Garnet > > On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 10:08, Sally Khanna wrote: > > In some Indian grocery stores, you can purchase sheets of silver for > > decorating desserts. They must be a similar stuff. > > > > Sally > > > > "Jonathan B. Britten" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Regarding the comment below, and sol's earlier comments about > > QuackWatch having some useful information, I will add this: > > > > Rosemary Jacobs is much maligned for her views about EIS, > > views which I > > think are unsubstantiated and misleading. At the same time, > > from her > > site, which I read carefully some years ago, I found that a > > silver-colored breath mint very popular in Japan was actually > > coated > > with metallic silver. And yes, there were documented journal > > articles > > about this product, Jin Tan, causing argyria. > > > > Guess what? Jin Tin was in my pocket at the time. > > > > Of course I quit buying it. > > > > I also learned that the little colored cake beads -- the > > silver ones -- > > have metallic silver, if Rosemary is right. (No journal > > articles about > > that if I remember.) > > > > Anyway, I think sol is right that it is useful to read widely > > even if we have been told that a certain source is biased. One > > never knows. > > It is good to keep an open mind. > > > > > > JBB > > > > > > > > On Thursday, Oct 28, 2004, at 14:04 Asia/Tokyo, David W Kenney > > wrote: > > > > > I told the owner...the janitor did it. > > > I'll listen to anyone that has an idea...good or bad...it is > > usually > > > useful. > > > Dave > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > > Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > > http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver List archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > > [email protected] > > OT Archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now.
