Thanks for your kind comments, Richard San.

One quick but important point: Price did not condemn grains, only refined white flour. He pointed in particular to the splendid health of one rural group -- Swiss I think -- who thrived on whole, stone-ground grain, and locally produced cheese, and other related diary products. On this diet the people grew tall, strong, and enjoyed healthy, long lives. This group, he said, comprises up the guards of the Vatican in Rome. I believe their staple grain was rye . . . . don't have the book at hand.

JBB





On Saturday, Nov 13, 2004, at 02:12 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the interesting, excellent information you share with "us
seekers"--I truly appreciate it. Dr. Mercola at Mercola.com has a very
interesting FREE weekly newsletter and is a prolific, unselfish writer and marvelous Doctor with a large Clinic near Chicago. His books and info on his NO-GRAIN diet comes close to your's & Sol's description. Audrey & I (each 81) are adding this diet to our health program and enjoying good results.

Sincerely,
_______________________________________
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>diet


I was keenly interested in a famous book by Weston Price, a DDS who
undertook worldwide studies of nutrition on peoples eating traditional
diets or moving toward refined diets.  It is a fascinating book.  In a
nutshell,  he found that peoples with dramatically differing diets all
enjoyed splendid dental and physical health -- from 100% meat eaters to
almost exclusively grain and dairy eaters to mostly vegetarians.    All
thrived on their multifarious native diets.

   The one consistent observation:  when these peoples started to eat
refined foods -- white flour and sugar especially -- their dental
health went to hell, and maxillofacial changes could be seen in the
first generation of children born to the parents on the new diet,
suggesting not genetic effects of course but direct nutritional
influences on fetal development.    I highly recommend the book, the
title of which does not come to mind.    Check Weston Price on Amazon:
you will find it.   I think it is Health and Human Nutrition.

JBB



On Friday, Nov 12, 2004, at 08:01 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:

  What I'd like to see, and probably never will is a diet study where
all sugar and refined foods are eliminated. This part of John's
beliefs I agree with. But allowing meat. After 40 years of interest in
nutrition and human evolution, and the evolution of agriculture, I
personally believe sugar and refined white foods, but especially sugar
is the main culprit (along with the comparatively recent transfats).
However it seems to be an article of faith that a sugarless, transfats
less, and no refined foods diet must necessarily be a meatless dies as
well.
  So far, I have only one person to experiment on. Myself. The
metabolic typing diet information so far *fits* my history and
experience the best. But I am also looking into the blood type issue.
I have the book and a blood typing kit, what I don't have is the nerve
to poke my finger to type my blood. Ridiculous, but there it is. It
sits there, because I'm too chicken for a finger-stick. Embarrassing.
  My entire philosophy of eating as well as all things regarding
health whether conventional or alternative is that everything works
for somebody, nothing works for everybody.
  I got a kick out of your statement that fruit clears the system in
15 minutes, I'm sure I can beat that time by several minutes!
Joking aside, pulse tests, and kinesiology can also be used to help
determine what one's body needs.
sol

Joy wrote:

  Fruits never to be eaten with any other kind of food - though if
you eat the fruit first, takes only 15 minutes for it to clear
through your system enough to eat somethign else.    Grains and
veggies are fine to eat together.
I guess what I'm getting at is there are so so many variables in this
equation, and your approach is like a fundamentalist preacher, here
is truth, and you're damned if you don't "believe".   In my
experience, each of us is able to pay attention to our own bodies and
"hear" what it is we are needing at any given time, and that equation
varies and evolves for many of us.  Imposing something out of a "true
belief' in one set of research or another can often be the MOST
damaging thing one can do.  Joy




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