Mike Monett wrote: > CS>FerroFluids > From: Matthew McCann > Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 05:46:47 > > Hello Matthew, > > > Hello, Mike, > > > Your definition of oligodynamism is not what others mean by the > > word. It's etymology (activity by the few) is close to what Nageli > > meant. It means increased potency upon dilution. The oligodynamism > > of colloidal silver was discovered years before it was tested on > > humans. > > I use the definition found in the British Columbia "Ambient Water > Quality Criteria for Silver", by P. D. Warrington, PhD. > > "Application of Criteria for Aquatic Life" > > "Silver is a disinfectant for non-spore forming bacteria at > concentrations about 1000 times lower than the levels at which it > is toxic to mammalian life. This extreme mammalian-to-bacterial > toxicity differential is the definition of an oligodynamic > material." > > [...] > > "The biological effects of silver are apparently due to reversible > bonds with enzymes and other active molecules on the surface of > cells. Due to its sulphydryl binding propensity, > biologically-available silver disrupts membranes, disables > proteins and inhibits enzymes." > > "The ionic form of silver is necessary for biological activity and > the lipid phase of the membrane appears to be important in > adsorbing silver ions to living cells. The active sites on enzymes > which are affected by silver are apparently the electron-rich > functional groups such as-SH groups." > > http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/wat/wq/BCguidelines/silver/bcsilver-04.htm > > > Dozens of investigators have reported that silver particulates are > > in colloidal silver. See text by Searle, and the vast bibliography > > in Hill and Pillsbury. Experimental verification by powder-pattern > > x-ray crystallography might be the most compelling evidence to me, > > though. > > Your statements might be more interesting and useful if you provided > some links. Sure, there is plenty of silver in silver oxides. But if > the solutions were prepared using electrolysis, the particles cannot > be silver metal. Many people wish and hope they are, but they cannot > show any equations to prove it. They certainly did not know of my > work prior to publication, and experimental results are always > subject to error and misinterpretation.
Equations prove nothing, experimental evidence and measurements prove things. Experiments and measurements prove that there are silver particles in EIS, if one produces equations that disagree with the experimental eveidence, then the equations must be wrong, not the evidence. That is how science is done. I have proven it several times with spectroscopy, and there are others who have proven it as well. Silver oxide under no condition causes water it is dissolved in, or suspended in, to be yellow, only metallic silver particles will give a yellow or golden color to the water. You want equations, then fine, I can give you some: Ag - -e -> Ag+ This equation shows that the anode will produce silver ions. At the other elecrtrode you get Ag + -e -> OH-. That OH- ion is necessary to balance the Ag+ ion and keep the solution neutral. Once the ionic portion exceeds a certain ppm depending on imputities in the water and the temperature and the ionic gradient, browning motion is sufficient for two Ag+OH- ion pairs to come together, they fuse. The equation for that is: 2Ag+ + 2OH- = 2Ag + H2O + H2 The 2Ag is the particulate portion. Now due to the lower amount of charge on this particle and it's greater size, the probablility of an ion of silver colliding with it is greater than two silver ions colliding, so these particles tend to grow althrough the amount of ions is much higher. The result is a combination of silver ions (actually silver hydroxide), and silver particles. There is no oxygen even available to form silver oxide, and it certainly cannot form at the anode where electrochemistry shows that the electrolysis will pull oxygen from silver oxide, not produce it. However, since it is known that silver hydroxide is somewhat unstable and will spontaneously reduce to silver oxide, perhaps some of the ionic portion is silver oxide. That at least makes sense, whereas the non dissolving particulate silver portion being soluble silver oxide makes no sense at all. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
