Re: CS>FerroFluids

Mon, 15 Nov 2004 18:30:29 -0800

I don't understand it either, but this is what the article stated. I posted here in hopes someone would make it clear to me. Perhaps the writers themselves were not clear no the details, and in fact the needle was merely a vehicle for delivering silver nitrate to the tissues doctors were treating. That sounds plausible. Sorry for the lack of clarity, which I was seeking by posting the initial message. We have some MDs on the list I think. I have never before or since heard of any kind of silver nitrate therapy. 

On Tuesday, Nov 16, 2004, at 01:46 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:


I don't see how this is possible. How could one make a needle out of 
silver
nitrate?  Silver nitrate is a crystalline salt, just like sodium 
chloride. I
see no way one could fabricate a needle out of it, and if they did, it 
would
break with the slightest pressure, and would dissolve instantly when 
it hit

any water or water based substance.

Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:


If memory serves me,  a sliver nitrate needle broke off during some
kind of surgical therapy here in Japan;  the patient died as a result;
silver nitrate was the cause.    This may be in the archives. . . .
the article itself though was a bit unclear.

On Sunday, Nov 14, 2004, at 17:40 Asia/Tokyo, Mike Monett wrote:


Re: CS>FerroFluids
From: Jonathan B. Britten
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:19:19

  Good Morning Jonathan,

  I will reply to both of your messages here.


Gentleman:



I am  a  layman and this is a bit out of  my  territory.  I should
note, however, that in my various and sundry readings about  CS, I
learned that  silver  nitrate is deadly. Why  in  the  world would
anyone be considering using that in vivo? Or did Quinto  care only
about in vitro results? I apologize for lacking time to  read this
myself just now, but I wish to make sure list members are aware of
the toxicity issues, as I initially was not.



JBB



  Silver nitrate  is  not  quite  as  deadly  as  your  readings 
might
  suggest. For  a long time, it was placed in newborns eyes  to 
combat
  infections that  cause blindness. This made the  babies  eyes 
black,

  and a doctor or nurse could easily tell which newborns received it.


  Until a while ago, it was required by law, but newer  substances 
are

  now recommended that are not as damaging to tissue.


  I find  with  very few exceptions that  most  commercial  vendors 
do
  whatever is  needed to sell their product. Whether their  claims 
are
  true or not makes little difference, since newcomers have no  way 
to
  determine who  is telling the truth. It's pretty much the  same 
with

  other medicines such as those advertised on tv.

  Re: CS>FerroFluids
  From: Jonathan B. Britten
  Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 00:14:45


Mike,



Your message suggests that CS would be useful in fighting NF. Have
you suggested  this to the NNFF organization, or are  they already
aware of  CS? The Cassi Moore page makes no mention of CS;  I have
not read further.



JBB



  I have given up trying to spread the message about cs to the 
medical
  establishment. Without  FDA  approval, no doctor  would  think 
about

  using cs even if it raised people from the dead.


  Curing people  is  not   in   the   best  interests  of  the 
medical
  establishment. Keeping people barely alive so they can be billed 
for

  treatment is much more profitable.


  However, I am finding a great deal of interest in using cs  to 
treat
  racehorses. Hopefully  this might spill over to the owners  using 
it

  also and telling their friends about it.

Best Wishes,

Mike Monett


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