I remember when some vitamins were prescription only. Why couldn't it happen again? Sally
Ken & Nancy <[email protected]> wrote: Joy, I hear you, and you MIGHT be right that this can happen in America, but I still doubt it. The Invisible Hand is always a work, and people have been saying these stories about supplements being eliminated from the open market for years, and nothing has really happened. The FDA is powerful, but it is not that powerful. As someone mentioned earlier on this list, the supplement industry also has enormous sums of money at its disposal, should they desire to pool it and fight the government for freedom to operate and sell. I won't say it cannot happen, and I will happily involve myself in legitimate anti-FDA agendas, but I don't think CODEX is going to end up in the way you describe. Even if it did, people find ways to get what they need. -Ken Bagwell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy" To: Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:20 PM Subject: Re: CS>The FDA, silver, and CODEX... > > > Sorry Ken, but this way of thinking seems to me to be like wearing > blinders. This IS happening in Europe and Australia as we speak - they > were "sure" as you are below that it wouldn't/couldn't happen, but it is > happening. And FDA does not have to prove that supplements are > dangerous. They don't do the testing. The companies trying to sell > products have to get them approved - have to do their own testing, by > impartial folks - but they have to pay the bill according to tests FDA > sets up. And FDA can arbitrarily say "nope". I'm so frustrated with > this even on regular meds - have a life-threatening condition that > causes my throat to swell shut from time to time. This isn't an > allergy, its caused by a missing enzyme that my body just doesn't > produce enough of - its a genetic condition. The only thing I can do is > go to ER and get blood products that provide the missing enzyme. And > hope I don't get anything dangerous from the blood products, and don't > need to be entubated or worse. Europe has had acute treatments for 15 > plus years now, effefctive, safe. FDA won't approve them. Not big > enough market (there are very few of us with this condition) to support > the testing FDA requires, so its not happening. > > In terms of alternative treatments, codex will put all the little ma and > pa businesses out of business, as they won't be able to afford the > testing FDA requires. Big corporations will buy out all the little > folk, and it will be just like the world of traditional drugs, once it > can be under their control, under prescription. And the big companies > can make far more on their traditional meds, so amounts of > vitamins/herbs that will be allowed to be sold won't be therapeutic > levels. I still hope/wish/want that there be a way to turn this > around, but it doesn't look likely.... I wish nothing more than that I > might be the one wearing blinders - that don't let me "get" that our > government truly is trustworthy and has our best interests at heart, or > at the very least are simply too busy to pay attention to the > supplements I need. My experience and I'm afraid the facts say > different. Joy > > > The FDA, etc, would literally have to > >prove that 100's of supplements are dangerous or do > >nothing. There's no possiblity they can ever prove > >that. The courts, juries and judges will never let > >something like this happen if so many people use these > >products and are helped by them. > > > >I really doubt it very much. > > > >-Ken Bagwell > > > > > > > > > >>Does anyone know if it's possible to get the FDA to > >>show copies of their > >>so called studies showing CS caused skin conditions? > >>It might be just a > >>big snow job. > >>Dennis > >> > >>Jim Holmes wrote: > >> > >>Trem wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Hi Jim, > >>> > >>>I spoke with the Doctor again. She had recommended > >>> > >>> > >some patients get > > > > > >>>a nasal spray bottle of CS. They reported back to > >>> > >>> > >her they had been > > > > > >>>removed from the shelves. She tells me that the > >>> > >>> > >FDA contacted Whole > > > > > >>>Foods and asked them to remove the nasal spray > >>> > >>> > >bottles of CS. She > > > > > >>>said that request was complied with but that > >>> > >>> > >regular CS was not > > > > > >>>removed from the shelves. > >>>The Vitamin Cottage was also contacted by the FDA > >>> > >>> > >and said they had > > > > > >>>studies showing CS caused skin conditions so they > >>> > >>> > >apparently decided > > > > > >>>to remove all CS from shelves. I haven't checked > >>> > >>> > >for veracity but am > > > > > >>>trying. > >>> > >>>If you care to, try calling Whole Foods again and > >>> > >>> > >see about the nasal > > > > > >>>spray bottles. Thanks. > >>> > >>>Trem > >>> > >>> > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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