To Tony, William, folks, I think it is not useful to propose some complicated explanation for Rosemary Jacobs' situation when the published account is reasonable enough. I'm inclined to believe her story as it is told, and any supposed inconsistencies are really not critical, in my opinion.
The upshot is that these people are very hostile to the alternative health community for resurrecting the thing (the therapeutic use of silver) that Rosemary believes caused her harm. As unfair as we might think that is, or as murky as their motivations might seem, they have a right to their beliefs. In the past I have had to ask list members to simply *leave Rosemary alone!* She's not going to listen to us, and there's no good reason to attract these people's attention. I've gone so far as to apologize to her when someone from the list decided to bother her. Please, let's leave Rosemary and her associates alone. We need to discuss the reasons why we disagree with her and formulate the arguments that will let us counter their message. Apart from that, confrontation or direct contact with them is unwise. I hope you'll keep this in mind. Be well, Mike D. list owner > This was written in response to Tony Moody's piece, but when it went > into the cosmos, it apparently went to him instead of the list: > > It doesn't look like you've read her website information. Her story is > posted at: http://homepages.together.net/~rjstan/rose2.html and you can > also get a bigger picture by doing a google on her name and checking out > the first 10 hits. Check out her debate with Mark Metcalf for openers. > > You should send her your speculation (her e-mail address is in there > somewhere) and see if she responds. I'd almost bet she would. She's not > afraid to rebut, but it looks like Metcalf cornered her. Maybe Markie's > on to something really big, but the bug in British Columbia sounds > extremely strange. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Moody" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Silver saved Rosemary? > > > | Yes Sol, > | My speculation was in naming the disease. I would be very interested > to | know of anything else that would fit the picture as we have it. Do > you have | any thoughts on this? | | She must have had a disease or > dis-ease or why would she have had | doctors attending(plural)? Why was > she given so much silver; enough to | give her argyria? What else had > she been prescribe or was taking? Why | did she have skin abrasion > done? and why did the skin abrasion operation | get botched? | | A prior > question should be; was it silver that caused her to turn blue? And, | > is she really blue? | | While searching for something else I noticed the > term "blue pus" and | following that thread lead me to > glanders/melioidosis. Blue pus could have | been the cause of blue skin, > right? | | I joined the Silver list a long time a go seeking for reasons > NOT to make | and sell colloidal silver generators. My questions were : > Is colloidal silver a | scam and can it cause harm? I definitely did not > want to cause harm and | did want to be aware of any psychodynamics. So > Rosemary was perhaps | one of the skeletons in the CS cupboard and I > followed my thoughts for a | while. I was left with some facts, she has > blue, pockmarked skin. But I was | also left with the fact that the > pictures and information came from a | Ripley's Believe it or not TV > strip. An American chewing gum advert!!! Also | that the movie colour > had been doctored. Also that she looked as though | she had had > smallpox. | | My guess today is that she was ill due to a contaminated > vaccination or | due to hugging a sick horse (or both). My guess is that > antibiotics and the | standard treatments of the day, including old time > remedies were tried. My | guess is that as a result of the > ilness/treatments she became pockmarked | and scarred. My guess is that > although the disease had subsided it had | gone quiet and systemic, and > that it flared up again when the | dermabrasion was done. My guess is > that the 'blue" colouration to her skin | is also due to scarring and > maybe poor circulation too. | | I'll also take a bet that Rosemary > Jacobs is now still taking silver in one | form or another to keep that > organism (or cluster of organisms) at bay. | | I'd also stick my neck > out a bit and take a bet that her symptoms would | clear up if she took > EIS while phasing out the silver compound; the | premise being that the > EIS would do the "natural silver germicide" against | the offending > organism/s and might reverse the argyria. According to | Marshall, > taking EIS would prevent argyria, and not cause argyria as a | silver > compound does. Anyway there is evidence that argyria could be | reversed > by taking H2O2. [ note EIS is electrically Isolated silver which is | > what we make with low voltage connected to two pieces of pure silver | > immersed in water ] | | enough, | Tony Moody | | | | On 25 Apr 2005 at > 10:22, sol wrote about : | Subject : Re: CS>Silver saved Rosemary? | | > > I must have missed seeing where anyone knows for certain Rosemary | > > actually had this disease? Wasn't this just speculation in the | > > original post? Just want to be clear, speculating can be extremely | > > interesting, but treating a speculation as fact isn't very productive | > > of much but myths, so it would be a good idea to keep being clear that > | > this is a speculative idea, not a fact. In case someone comes in the > | > middle of the thread. sol | > | > Tony Moody wrote: | > | > >OK this > makes a bit more sense now. I wondered why Quackwatch | > >put so much > energy into Rosemary's case. did a google on | > >melioidosis and got > 33500 hits !! | > > | > >If silver cures this disease then the powers > that be do not want the | > >public to know about it. So they have > erected this elaborate scare | > >scam. | > > | > >the first one : | > > >DBMD - Melioidosis - General Information | > >... Melioidosis > (Burkholderia pseudomallei). Navigation bar ... | > >Melioidosis, also > called Whitmore's disease, is an infectious disease | > >caused by the > ... | > >www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/melioidosis_g.htm - 17k | > > > | > ><snip> | > >Why has melioidosis become a current issue? | > > | > > >Burkholderia pseudomallei is an organism that has been considered as | > > >a potential agent for biological warfare and biological terrorism. | > > ><snip> | > > | > > | > > | > > | > | > | > -- | > No virus found in > this outgoing message. | > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. | > Version: > 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.3 - Release Date: 4/25/2005 | > | > | > > -- | > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > Silver. | > | > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org | > | > To post, address your message to: > [email protected] | > Silver List archive: | > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html | > | > Address > Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] | > OT Archive: > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html | > | > List > maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> | | | | >
