At 09:59 AM 1/8/2006 -0800, you wrote:

Hi Terry,
I am using a Radio Shack AC Adapter. It has a 13.5/30 alternating switch. 1000mA. I have experimented my procsess beginning at 30 and when the solution reaches 1 or 2 pmm I switch to 13.5. Eventually, regardless of where I begin, I finish with a settled solution which is not clear. The end product is always some shade of yellow. Also, it may read 10-12 when I am done, but eventually settles anywhere from 3-6 as a finished products days later and always the color deepens.

Do you think the Adapter using 1000mA  is too high?

##   2 milliamps is probably too high for the size of your electrodes.
The 1000 mA has nothing to do with anything but what it's going to take to burn out the transformer with heat..and how much voltage drops with a given current load. [draw] At the loads that making CS properly entails, your actual voltage is probably somewhere around 40 to 45, but that's nearly irrelevant.

Switching from 30 to 13 volts will help keep the current down, but not enough.
 You'd be better off using a 3 to 6 volt transformer.
It'll be a BUNCH slower, but will do a better job...or a 'universal adapter' with a 12, 9, 6, 3, 1.5 volt switch..and put an ammeter in there to monitor what's going on so you'll know 'when' to use the switch.
50 mA is way more than enough 'size' to keep the transformer from heating up.
Constant stirring helps a lot.

One visual hint: If you see a golden "ion cloud", the current is too high. Back off the voltage till it stays white or goes away completely.
Of course, if you are stirring, you'll never see any color of cloud.

The easiest way to do all this is, of course, to buy a generator that does all that stuff for you electronically so you can 'have a life' while the CS is making itself as slow as it should and turns itself off when it's all done.

If you're using a "PPM" meter, it's calibrated to measure salt water, not silver water. Roughly, double that reading to get PPM in silver water and use the lowest number you get the day or so after.

A "uS" meter  like a COM-100 or Hanna PWT  is much better.

ode



Terry Chamberlin <[email protected]> wrote:
David said,
"I'm not arguing that ionic is better than colloidal
or vice versa because I'm happy to take both. And I
dont want bigger particles because I'm sure that if
particles are desirable, then the smaller the better.
What I am asking is, what happens in a brew once the
the max ionic ppm has been reached? Does the colloidal
ppm/percentage keep increasing or is there a maximum
that can be kept in suspension."

This is the kind of technical question that occurs to
me. As I determine how to use higher and higher
voltage while limiting current to a few ma, the
quality of my CS increases. The maximum soluble silver
may increase with increased voltage, assuming very low
constant current. Dr. Eric J Rentz,
http://www.oligodynamic.com discussed this:

"An oligodynamic silver hydrosol is by definition, a
preparation that has particles measured in nanometers
or picometers..."

I postulate that as I increase voltage without
increasing current, particles are smaller
(picometers), and maximum soluble silver would
increase.

Terry Chamberlin






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