Hi, Rowena, Thanks very much for all the helpful information and websites about mold. I am wondering if the mold in my house is a dangerous kind since I am not sick in the usual ways described. This is what puzzles my doctors so much that I am not in severe pain, although it approaches severe in my right abdomen when I waken during the night to go to the bathroom, but it does not usually keep me awake. I go right back to sleep after the bathroom trip. I think I will call the County Health Nurse about this and see what she has to offer re diagnosing the type of mold present in my house. This whole area used to be a swamp I am told. The railroad bought the land years ago and drained a good deal of it. Actually just one house east of mine, the land was still a swamp until a couple of year ago. Migrating water birds would stop there and we could enjoy the sound of frogs croaking in spring. The whole area has now been drained with varying success. A neighbor across the street from me had his basement flooded recently due to some malfunction of the main pump used by the town to keep the water levels low. A nursing home has been built on a higher portion of that ground. I am told that you used to be able to row a boat from the closest town to the west , to Gibbon where I live. You have given me some good starting places for research. thanks again. Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein


From: "Rowena" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CS>  Huggins/thyroid Ruth Carpet Mold
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 01:51:08 +0900

Further to that, Ruth, I did a bit of research in case I could find the
story. There are things worth knowing out there. Is it Wayne Fugitt who is
a mold expert on this forum?
http://palimpsest.stanford.edu/byorg/abbey/an/an23/an23-7/an23-702.html said
a book that everyone should have access to has just appeared in print:
Guidelines on Assessment and Remediation of Fungi in Indoor Environments,
available on the Internet at
http://www.ci.nyc.ny.us/html/doh/html/epi/moldrpt1.html (2) Future revisions
to it will be posted there too. For more information, contact the New York
City Department of Health at 212/788-4290. An expert panel was convened in
1993, originally to develop policies for medical and environmental
evaluation and intervention in cases of Stachybotrys atra [chartarum]
contamination. This revised guideline covers all fungi.

3. Follow developments in research and make contacts. Go to a mold
conference now and then, or read in the professional literature on current
research, to be sure your information is up to date. This will also make
people more willing to talk to you; you can put yourself on a grapevine if
you have recent news to swap. (As far as I know, there are no extension or
college courses on coping with mold, except perhaps in the historical
preservation field.)

4. Study real situations. Even if there is no leak to be found, water can
enter a building through porous building materials, including concrete. It
may enter as water vapor and condense and collect in hidden places. There
are many esoteric ways for water to enter a house and feed mold. They are
hard to understand without some kind of hands-on experience or a good
teacher or a couple of really good books. So study is unavoidable.

Mold Websites & Listservs Related to Health
  a.. [email protected] (A listserv for people diagnosed with
Aspergillus infections. A minor source of usable information; mainly serves
as a support group.)
b.. http://www.aspergillus.man.ac.uk/ (A technical website which offers an impressive variety of information, including the full text of a large number
of medical papers. Registration is needed if you want to have access to all
sections.)
  c.. http://www.chem.umd.edu/organic/jarvis.html (Analysis of 4 toxins,
esp. tricothecenes, a kind of toxin produced by many species of mold)
d.. http://isiaq.org/ (International Society for Indoor Air Quality. Good
on buildings and air handling, but not on mold itself, or on health.)
  e.. http://www.iuoe.org/cm/iaq_iaq_in_home.asp?Item=294   some horror
stories - getting insurance for mold problems is no joke.
  f..
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/00157/corroded_valves_mold.html
  g.. http://www.moldinspector.com/mold_advice.htm
  h.. http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=52250
According to Portnoy, mold attacks in one of four ways.


First, you could be allergic to it. This occurs in 10% to 20% of cases. A
skin or blood test would pinpoint it as an allergic substance.


Second, substances called ergosterol and glucan in the walls of the mold
cell can cause hay fever-like symptoms. You don't have to be allergic --
anyone could react to these.


Third, molds release organic compounds such as benzene and acetone, which
would raise alarms in any workplace and are linked to nausea, dizziness, and
headaches. Again, you don't have to be allergic.


And last, molds, like other organisms, don't want to compete for food and
nurturing, so they expel mycotoxins to kill competitors such as bacteria. In
the case of helpful mycotoxins, we call these antibiotics and use them to
help us. But in the case of some molds, the mycotoxins target cells within
our bodies and may cause problems such as cancer, stillbirths, and bleeding
in infants. Stachybotrys makes a lot of these harmful mycotoxins.



Wow, the stories that are out there!

All the best

Rowena




Ruth, I really don't like the thought of you having the same carpets that
have been down since before all the damp problems.  Mold, dampness etc. are
like poison.
I can't vouch for this story, though some of you may know about it.  It was
told to me by a friend, and concerns somone living in America.

A family with a very expensive house, all the extras, experienced flooding.
The insurance company didn't want to pay up.  While the arguing was going
on, the family continued to live in the house, and the son and husband
became ill.  On a plane trip the wife happened to sit next to an expert in
mold.  Later, she decided to call him in to examine the house.  They were
told to get out of the house immediately, and not take anything at all from
the house with them, as there was a very bad kind of mold there.  The son
improved in health, but the husband is permanently damaged.  I may not have
full or correct details, but that is the gist of it.

If anyone has a link to the full, correct story (there could be a transcript
of a TV program or something) I'd like to have it.

Best wishes
Rowena



 My house does have a mold problem.  Actually, I doubt that
it is altogether curable, the house, that is. ................. The answer
may be to
move into an apartment.  I am wondering about even that since this whole
area is prone to dampness and mold.  The last radon reading I had was
slightly high.  Since then I have had a beaver system put in which has
elilminated at least gross moisture in the basement. Cement walls and floor
have been dry since then.  I also had cracks in the walls sealed.  have not
had a radon count since then.  Probably should do that.  However, the
original carpets are still in the house.


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