On Oct 7, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2015-10-07 21:50, John Forecast wrote: >> >> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 2015-10-07 18:43, John Forecast wrote: >>>> >>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Paul Koning <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> DECNET is available under RSX-11M and RSTS/E on PDP-11s, Tops-10 and >>>>>> TOPS-20 >>>>>> on PDP-10s, and under VMS (and possibly Ultrix, I don't remember for >>>>>> certain) >>>>>> on VAXen, and on VMS follow-on systems. It is as far as possible >>>>>> agnostic >>>>>> about what kind of system it was running on or connecting to. >>>>> >>>>> DECnet/Ultrix, yes. There is also a limited DECnet for RT-11, and for >>>>> DOS. And VAXELAN. And possibly IAS, I don't remember that one for sure. >>>>> >>>> Both IAS and RSX-11D (essentially the same code) were Phase II only. >>>> There was also a >>>> Phase II implementation for OS/8 but I seem to remember it being >>>> cancelled fairly early >>>> in the Phase II schedule. >>> >>> I thought IAS and -11D made it to phase III, but I can't find any evidence >>> either way now that I'm looking. >>> >> I worked on the 2.0 release and I know there was a 2.1 bug fix update >> but I don’t remember >> any phase III implementation. > > You might well be right. I tried searching for SPDs for DECnet/IAS and only > found the 2.0 release that way. And the 2.0 release was for phase II. IAS > itself got to at least V3.5 release in 1992. Surprised that DECnet was never > updated, but like I said, can't find anything. > >>> I have DECNET-8. It's not for OS/8 but for RTS-8. But yes, it is phase II. >>> I have never tried it, though. So I don't know how/if it actually works, >>> and I don't have any phase II or phase III nodes to test against. >>> >> Yes, you’re right, it was RTS-8. Looking at the date on the DECNET-8 >> SPD (May 1977) seems >> to imply that it was a Phase I product. Around that time we were just >> putting together the >> system-level architecture of DECnet-11M/11D/IAS and it would be another >> year before >> they would ship (SPD says June 1978). > > I have always just assumed it was phase II, but now I sat down and tried > reading through the code. And I'm not sure anymore. > > It's clearly called V1A (some modules are at V1C) of DECNET/8, but the > problem is that I can't find any clear mention of which phase it is anywhere. > What I can find is that it claims to implement NSP SPEC LEVEL 2.2. Not sure > what that is worth. The TLK program also mention adding PDP11 compatibility, > so it would definitely appear that it worked, and could communicate with > PDP-11 systems. > Phase II use NSP v3.1 so that’s probably another indication that it’s a Phase I product. > It's also clearly dated early 1977. > > Johnny > > -- > Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus > || on a psychedelic trip > email: [email protected] || Reading murder books > pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol > _______________________________________________ > Simh mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh _______________________________________________ Simh mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
