On 2015-10-09 17:57, John Forecast wrote:

On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Paul Koning <[email protected]> wrote:


On Oct 9, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote:

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        Phase II use NSP v3.1 so that’s probably another indication that it’s a 
Phase I product.

John, maybe you can clear some things up for me.
Looking at the Wikipedia article about DECnet, it claims that phase I was 
simply between two nodes. No larger than that. And in addition was RSX-11 only. 
And it was 1974.

It wouldn't be at all surprising if the information about Phase I were 
inaccurate given its undocumented status.

        I tend to agree with Paul here. I’m also pretty sure that it was 
RSX-11D only as well. The
        systems I used were moved into a newly built machine room sometime 
around Aug-Sep
        1976 and the was when we installed DECnet. As to the limit of two nodes 
I have no
        direct knowledge but in mid-1977, Volvo were using a DV-11 in their 
Phase I network.
        An 8-line multiplexor which took up 9 backplane slots would seem to be 
overkill for a
        2 node network.

Yes, two nodes seems like a weird limitation, which don't really make sense.

Phase II says multiple implementations on different systems, and a max of 32 
nodes. Also supposedly added task-to-task programming interfaces. And 
supposedly 1975.


        Phase I definitely had task-to-task interfaces along with TLK/LSN and 
file transfer (PLE
        seems to ring a bell as the NFT equivalent). The timeframe here seems 
to be off. I moved
        to the US in Jan 1977 to be the project leader for DECnet-11D/IAS. The 
original plan
        called for a 9-month development cycle but it ended up more like 18+ 
months, so mid-1978
        would be more accurate.

File transfer was not implemented in RTS-8. I would suspect not feasible, or else not useful or something. TLK/LSN and task to task communication is all the manual mentions. I'll try and find any other sources for any dates.

        Johnny

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