On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:12 AM, Henk van de Kamer <s...@vandekamer.com> wrote: >> If you want to go full realistic, once you’ve got 4.4 running, generate >> your own STABACKIT in the media format you prefer and then repeat the >> install :) > > Hmm, but then you depend on your provided disk. It would be nice if you > could bootstrap it with only the VMS 4.4 tape and the Stand alone back-up > tapes. I think that is the procedure in the old VAX install manual?
The procedure in the manual was to boot Standalone Backup via whatever console medium your machine had. When you got an OS update subscription, you paid for the media that fit your machine. Where I worked in the 80s and 90s, we got our VMS on 1600 bpi magtape with Standalone Backup on TU58s for our 11/750 and 11/730, and we got MicroVMS on RX50 diskette (uVAX-I) and TK50 (uVAX-II). The 11/780 typically got SABACKUP on RX01 disks, IIRC. The 8600 got it on RL02 packs. The trick is, once you got any machine running a certain version of VMS, you could always generate your own Standalone Backup kit on an type of media that machine could write, console or not. Our 11/750 could write TU58s, RL02s, and RX50s (we had an RUX50, an uncommon device, but we needed it to send updates to our own customers). You could even designate a directory on a bootable disk (commonly "SYSE") because you wanted to backup a quiesced machine but didn't want to have to swap console media out to get to the backup prompt (with real TU58s and even floppies, it takes a while to boot SABACKUP, vs seconds if it's on your boot disk). Here's some information on using and copying Standalone Backup https://www.itec.suny.edu/scsys/vms/ovmsdoc073/v73/6017/6017pro_050.html If you mean by "Stand alone back-up tapes" the TU58 images in this thread, that will only work for specific models of VAX (11/725, 11/730, 11/750) not all models. There is no one SABACKUPKIT that works on all models and there never can be. The consoles are different between related models. -ethan _______________________________________________ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh
