In a message dated 8/24/2005 9:31:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And some can do it on there own....1 in a million, like Ramana

This only seems to be so...specifically because people are taught to go to someone else.
So, what you're saying is that the dedicated seeker, for whom devotion and willingness is present and therefore awakening far more likely, is told that a teacher is needed and, in their dedication, they seek a teacher even though it is not needed? Enlightenment then seemingly 'results' from contact with the teacher.
 
If that's so, it clears up yet another confusion I've had involving the invalid concept of cause and effect within the illusion. I couldn't see how anything is needed.
 
Phil
 


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