Re: [simplisticmeditation] Wow - get ready!

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In a message dated 8/24/2005 9:09:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact that your self is not independent as in separate, it is also not dependent as in separate. Too many read selflessness from ancient pages and believe it is so, and yet, you cannot be at all except you be the altar of the whole light. It's not that you do not have your own volition, but rather that your volition is all there is or ever will be... Okay, now we're cookin. I've been told by many teachers that I have no choice, no free will, no volition, and everything happens of it's own accord. Maybe I've been misunderstanding or listening to outer voices when I should be listening to the inner one. So, let's try that.   The human does not have an independent self. Ego is a collection of thoughts that don't even originate from within the human. It's a dream and nothing can be done from the perspective of the dream in order to cause the dreamer to awaken. Fine, no problemo.   Where the "I" exists is outside and inside the illusion at once since they are the same. We'll call this the unmanifest "I". This is what I am. This is what animates the dream characters from the fragmented parts of it's own consciousness and experiences the dream and uses it to awaken from the dream.   Things look very different from the perspective of the unmanifest I. There is no linear sequence of events occurring and yet there is the experience of that as my consciousness is narrowed onto the dreamscape. There in no mentation here and yet there is the illusion of thought as the dream is experienced. There is no memory here since this implies the contemplation of a temporal sequence and so this is only experienced by virtue of the dream illusion. Since there is no mentation or memory here, there is no choosing here and the choosing that is experienced within the dream is based entirely on the dream content and has no impact on the dreamer except for one thing.   The dreamer is actually the one choosing in the only way that choice can be made: from within the dream, under the delusion of it's own self created illusion. And so, the dreamer does seek awakening from within the dream but seemingly lacking a full awareness of it's real Self that it wishes to awaken to.   Hmmm, an interesting game. If this is all so, there is the potential for me to explore my own dream for clues as to how I might awaken, or at least turn this into a lucid dream.   Phil       The inner light can answer any of this world's queries and resolve any of its problems.  Beyond all of these concerns, the inner light will show you who you are and your relationship to all...and bring you an understanding of love and peace that transcends ordinary human thought processes.  Discover what it truly means to "love one another" and to "see peace." YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "simplisticmeditation" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.