At 10:46 PM -0700 7/12/01, Systems wrote:
>Hey! careful with those blacklistings...
>
>Metronet was bought out by AT&T Canada the largest Canadian national CLEC.
>That's a rather big legitimate telco to blacklist (if you go up to class
>B).
So?
A few years ago I put every bit of the 7th largest (at the time)
backbone ISP into my blacklist. So did many other people. They (AGIS)
were intentionally providing service to the 3 biggest commercial
spammers, and colluding with them in an address-harvesting scheme
masquerading as a list removal system. AGIS is now dead, due at least
in part to that widespread blacklisting.
AT&T is one provider who is KNOWN to have written explicitly 'pink'
contracts in the past. Contracts which provide the customer with an
exemption from the normal rules against spamming. It looks in some
cases like they are still doing this.
> You should be able to get good support from their NOC.
Maybe, but their abuse response sucks.
>And since my
>fiber is carried by them, *I'd* be one of the legitimate ones you'd be
>blacklisting (mail.caravel.bc.ca=216.13.201.248)
It makes far more sense to blacklist the popsite IP addresses, since
they are in this case the real problem.
However, I've had reasons over the years to put a lot of your network
neighbors into my local blacklist because of Metronet's incompetence
(that's the kind interpretation; the less-kind one is that they are
knowingly and intentionally providing a haven for spammers)
--
Bill Cole
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