>>There doesn't appear to BE a "spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com ".
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>No records were found.
>
>That may not be not what it appears to be...
>
>Joe Jared (who runs Osirusoft) has a very odd view of how to 
>structure his DNS zones, so you pretty much have to hit an authority 
>with a query in the zone to get a rational response.

I've been wondering about this all damn day. Bill, although it's a 
little off-topic, can you explain this in more detail? Forgetting 
SIMS for a moment, and pretending that the extent of my DNS world is 
my caching nameserver, why do I get only a question response to 
spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com, but a question and also an answer to 
reverse_ip.spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com? To wit:

[jeglin@orion jeglin]$ dig spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com
; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21365
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com. IN      A
<snip>

but

[jeglin@orion jeglin]$ dig 248.217.80.64.spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com
; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> 248.217.80.64.spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 42520
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;248.217.80.64.spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com. IN        A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
248.217.80.64.spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com. 23931 IN A 127.0.0.6
<snip>


Inquiring minds want a DNS lesson... Regardless of what Joe Jared 
does (or I guess -because- of what he does) with his DNS, how does my 
caching nameserver figure the one out but not the other? I'm assuming 
the first [non]answer is simply because there is no PTR record. But I 
thought to even do the second dig, one has to be able to find the 
first...

Confused. (about DNS, which is -not- a first)


Stefan Jeglinski

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