>real businesses. I would think that mail server operators would take
>serious issue with the ethical and behavioral implications of testing
>without probable cause, yet people flock to use ORBZ, ORDB, and
>relays.osirusoft.com. Rationality clearly is Not The Rule when it
>comes to issues of spam.

Hi again,
        I wholeheartedly agree - I have witnessed numerous occasions where
an innocent party has been blacklisted because the relaying tests were not
using properly defined rules & the server operators had to fight long &
hard to have their servers removed when they had never allowed relaying.
        Bill - what blacklists (if any) would you recommend? For relay
prevention I use only the 'Return Paths Verify' & 'Relay For Clients Only'
features of SIMS, but no blacklist as yet as I have not needed the services
of such a list. Are there any free reliabl services which can be relied
upon or are they all 'charge' type operations. As a non-profit
organisation, it would be beyond our means to pay a subscription service,
so I'd be interested in what you have to say.


        Bye for now, Terry Allen
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