At 3:43 PM +1100 2/9/02, Terry Allen imposed structure on a stream of electrons, yielding: >>real businesses. I would think that mail server operators would take >>serious issue with the ethical and behavioral implications of testing >>without probable cause, yet people flock to use ORBZ, ORDB, and >>relays.osirusoft.com. Rationality clearly is Not The Rule when it >>comes to issues of spam. > >Hi again, > I wholeheartedly agree - I have witnessed numerous occasions where >an innocent party has been blacklisted because the relaying tests were not >using properly defined rules & the server operators had to fight long & >hard to have their servers removed when they had never allowed relaying. > Bill - what blacklists (if any) would you recommend? For relay >prevention I use only the 'Return Paths Verify' & 'Relay For Clients Only' >features of SIMS, but no blacklist as yet as I have not needed the services >of such a list. Are there any free reliabl services which can be relied >upon or are they all 'charge' type operations. As a non-profit >organisation, it would be beyond our means to pay a subscription service, >so I'd be interested in what you have to say.
I think the MAPS lists are good, but you pretty much have to plead your case to get access to them free if you are not clearly a personal 'hobbyist' site. If your budget can handle $150 per year, access to the RSS and DUL at least will slice a big chunk of spam off your mail load. In the free environment, the SBL (http://www.spamhaus.org) is run by Steve Linford (who you may recognize from this list) and is somewhat akin to the MAPS RBL in that it lists primary senders of spam. Having worked for MAPS and having interacted with Steve for some years now here and in other fora, I actually feel more comfortable using the SBL than I would be using the RBL. To cover the open relay problem, Al Iverson (originator of the RRSS, which became the MAPS RSS) has helped set up a new abused open relay list rather similar to the RSS for VISI (http://relays.visi.com) which stops a lot of spam. As a conservative list that only lists abused relays which have passed spam to trap addresses, it is not as comprehensive or as preemptive as the lists which test without cause, but it has a lot less ethical baggage too. The last class of blocklist is dialups, and the only free list I'm aware of for dialups is within the Osirusoft lists. (http://relays.osirusoft.com) I have a hard time being enthusiatic about the osirusoft lists at all but I do use dialups.relays.osirusoft.com in addition to having a lot of that I've found locally blacklisted. -- Bill Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send administrative queries to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
