At 1:07 PM -0600 3/2/02, Michael A. Pasek  imposed structure on a 
stream of electrons, yielding:
>Sorry for the late post; I'm a little behind in my email......
>
>In SIMS Digest #1636, Christian F Buser wrote:
>>>>[much stuff deleted]
>>>>  17:50:09 4 SMTP-040([212.71.103.177]) Input Line: XXXX [172.16.7.3]\r
>>>>[more stuff deleted]
>
>To which Dmitry Akindinov responded:
>>More likely, it's a SMTP-filtering firewall, like Cisco PIX.
>
>I didn't know that the PIX did anything more than Packet filtering....does
>it really have the capability to do inspection/replacement of the "data"
>portion of a TCP packet ?


YES.

See http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pix+XXXX+smtp for some 
details on this particular issue.

>I know application-gateway firewalls like Sidewinder, Gauntlet, and
>Raptor could _possibly_ be configured to do this, and you could certainly
>do it with a dual-MTA configuration (where one just queues, a time-triggered
>scanning/replacement routine takes the mail from the first MTA's queue, and
>then moves it to the second MTA's queue for delivery), but I haven't seen
>an actual implementation of this.


The PIX is far more than a filtering router. It has 'fixup' protocol 
proxies including one for SMTP. It intercepts the SMTP session and 
then relays commands to the SMTP server on the other end. the reason 
it does the XXXX thing is that it is designed to allow only the 
commands originally specified in RFC821, not ANY extensions. To keep 
the state of the real outside SMTP server and the client 
consistent, it has to assure that the server is in a 'bad command' 
state if sends a 500 error back to the client for an extension 
command like EHLO.

I can't explain any rational justification for doing this sort of 
thing with SMTP, where the extensions are really not the security 
problems, the core functionality is.
-- 
Bill Cole                                  
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