So if clients are running Outlook Express, then we can just set them up to
use SMTP authentication and it should work that way (with the CRAM-MD5
"encryption")? 

Or is CRAM-MD5 an encryption technique, per se?

Thanks!

Chris

> From: Global Homes Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "SIMS Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:55:19 -0700
> To: "SIMS Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: SMTP AUTH security/passwords transmitted in the clear?
> 
> On 05/29/03 at 14:45, Chris Wagner opined:
> 
>> Or is that a client thing?
> 
> It's a client thing. After the client sends its EHLO, SIMS tells the client
> what AUTH methods it supports (if 'Advertise AUTH' is enabled in the SMTP
> service settings). Then it's up to the client to decide which of the
> advertised methods to use. The only way the server could force a client to
> use a particular AUTH method would be to not list any others in its EHLO
> response. AFAIK, this is not something that you can configure in SIMS,
> although I suppose the brave of heart might be able to discover and edit
> SIMS' response string with ResEdit.
> 
>> Sorry for the double-reply.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>>> From: "Craig Bowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: "SIMS Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 12:36:12 -0700
>>> To: "SIMS Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: SMTP AUTH security/passwords transmitted in the clear?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> The only question I have is since the passwords are sent in the
>>>> clear with SMTP AUTH (as opposed to APOP which encrypts passwords)
>>>> has there ever been a known case of a hacker intercepting SMTP
>>>> AUTH password transmissions to gain relay abilities on a mail
>>>> server? This seems to be a security concern whereas with the APOP
>>>> check before send hack I can't see any real security hole
>>>> (especially with a 15 or 30 second "window" during which
>>>> authenticated IPs are treated as clients).
>>> 
>>> Well actually the SMTP AUTH doesn't have to be plain text. You'll
>>> see SIMS supports LOGIN PLAIN and CRAM-MD5, if you telnet to SIMS
>>> on port 25, and type EHLO
>>> 
>>> Now as to the issue of what the clients support, you might consult a
>>> table such as:
>>> http://members.elysium.pl/brush/smtp-auth/client.html
> 
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