Hi Alex,
Hi SIOC specification group,
Am 27.06.2010 10:14, schrieb Alexandre Passant:
Hi Bob,
On 26 Jun 2010, at 08:41, Bob Ferris wrote:
Hi John,
Thanks a lot for your very fast response.
Am 26.06.2010 03:16, schrieb John Breslin:
Hi Bob -
Great to hear from you!
Is an InfoService always going to store data or could it be something
non-computer related?
I think it depends on how one defines 'store data'. I may want to illustrate a
non-technical view of an/a ontologist/linguist (I'm really nor both of these
ones, however, I think they have a deep impact on ontology modelling).
Let's find some examples:
- A library is a knowledge base (information service), which stores books etc.
- A human could also be a knowledge base (information service), which stores
his/her own knowledge
- A book is a (smaller) knowledge base (information service), which stores its
knowledge in each page (maybe one could see a book as a kind of restricted
intranet storage in contrast to the huge internet storage)
In that case, I think that sioc:Space won't be appropriate.
As John said, SIOC refers to online content, and that case refers to other
"non-computer" content. (Besides the use of DL or eBooks that might be
sioc:Space(s) instances)
More or less every metaphor, which describes something in the computer world,
is derived from an already existing thing in the world (I don't want to say
real world, because what we see in the Internet is also real, else we may
couldn't see it ;) ).
As you can see, all these examples I mentioned above are non-computer related.
However, most of them already exist somehow in the computer world. Furthermore,
you can see that I use two term for describing what a thing is/could be. That
means, generally I see an information service only as a facet of this thing,
which could also have more different facets.
Another point is, that I would currently primarily concentrate on modelling
instances, which have/deliver a huge amount of knowledge/information (of a
specific domain or domain independent). Everything that is very small and/or
subjective, e.g. personal things like personal blogs, websites etc. are for
this development step out of scope. However, if one feel free to model these
thing, the definition of information service should be strong enough to also
include these things.
For me, sioc:Space could be on the public Web or just
in some intranet storage - doesn't have to be on the Internet - but I'm not
sure what you mean by offline and offline... Maybe you could qualify?
With 'offline', I mean non-computer (related) things, and with 'online', I mean
computer/Internet related things. Maybe one have to find therefore better
terms. I would currently vote for the terms 'computer' and 'non-computer' (as
you already used it). That would hopefully also clarify a bit the scope of the
information service definition. However, if someone has a better one, feel free
to propose it ;)
Finally, I'm still thinking that sioc:Space and is:InfoService are somehow
equal to each other, or sioc:Space is a subset of is:InfoService.
I would agree for the subClass proposal, but not for the equality as exposed
before.
I feel fine with this decision. Now it's upon you ;)
Thank you very much for your thoughts.
Cheers,
Bob
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