On 16 Jul 2010, at 00:42, Nathan wrote:

> kidehen wrote:
>> John,
>> The relation:
>> sioc:Space rdfs:subClassOf is:InfoService
>> or even
>> sioc:Space owl:equivalentClass is:InfoService
>> Work fine.
>> In either case its about a relationship between two Classes that offer
>> a mechanism for referencing partitioned data spaces on HTTP
>> networks :-)
> 
> sorry! not really, if I recall correctly an is:InfoService can be anything, 
> on the web or not, a library for instance, a service you can't dereference 
> and use as a dataspace unless you're a human in the real world.
> 

Agreed, equivalentClass is imo wrong but the subclass would be ok, cf Bob's 
definition and my previous comment at [1]

Alex.

[1] http://groups.google.com/group/sioc-dev/msg/348596af5c61fc6b?dmode=source

> ps: I may be wrong on my understanding of Bob's InfoService
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 9:16 pm, John Breslin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Bob -
>>> 
>>> Great to hear from you!
>>> 
>>> Is an InfoService always going to store data or could it be something
>>> non-computer related?  For me, sioc:Space could be on the public Web or just
>>> in some intranet storage - doesn't have to be on the Internet - but I'm not
>>> sure what you mean by offline and offline...  Maybe you could qualify?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On 25/06/2010 15:20, "Bob Ferris" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi everybody,
>>>> I'm currently developing the Info Service Ontology [1,2,3,4], which
>>>> enables an association of arbitrary resources to its underlying
>>>> information service (see [5] for a definition of the term 'information
>>>> service').
>>>> Furthermore, such an information service could then be described,
>>>> categorized and rated (re. its information service quality) through the
>>>> is:InfoService concept[2] and its relations to more detailed description
>>>> concepts (see [3] for a proof-of-concept example).
>>>> As it becomes more and more important for data/knowledge consumer to
>>>> (maybe automatically) select the right/a good information service, which
>>>> delivers this information, an information service quality rating could
>>>> probably deliver information, which will hopefully help the
>>>> data/knowledge consumer to find a good choice.
>>>> These information service quality ratings could be done by several
>>>> information service quality rating agencies for different information
>>>> services (also based on maybe different Info Service Quality Ontology
>>>> specifications, e.g. [7] as an interesting information quality
>>>> classification).
>>>> Now to the important part, why I'm contacting your list ;)
>>>> How do you think about the relation of sioc:Space ("A Space is a place
>>>> where data resides, e.g. on a website, desktop, fileshare, etc. ") to
>>>> is:InfoService ("An Information Service is this part of an Information
>>>> System that serves data/knowledge/information to customers and collects
>>>> it from its contributors, to manage and store it by optionally using
>>>> administrators.").
>>>> I figured out sioc:Space as the most equal concept to is:InfoService.
>>>> However, I still think that the definition of sioc:Space maybe
>>>> concentrates on the 'online' domain, where on the other side, the
>>>> definition of is:InfoService should capture both domains - the 'online'
>>>> and 'offline' domain.
>>>> As already mentioned on the Info Service Ontology mailing list[6], there
>>>> are (more or less, so far as I know) three ways for defining the
>>>> association/relation between the concepts sioc:Space and is:InfoService:
>>>> 1. :my_instance_of_something a sioc:Space , is:InfoService . # the
>>>> association is then only on the A-Box level
>>>> 2. sioc:Space owl:equivalentClass is:InfoService . # this is maybe the
>>>> most strongest relation
>>>> 3. sioc:Space rdfs:subClassOf is:InfoService . # this expresses a bit
>>>> stronger that sioc:Space is a part of is:InfoService
>>>> How do you think about building this relation?
>>>> In general, it might be enough to define a 'best practice' re.
>>>> suggesting association case '1.' for typing instances with a
>>>> is:InfoService association. However, I think building a stronger
>>>> relation might be better for reasoning options (following the principle:
>>>> tell the (dumb) machine as many as you know) and also a bit easier in
>>>> defining individuals.
>>>> So, please let me know, how you would create this ontology concept 
>>>> relation.
>>>> Thank you for all your (forthcoming) efforts.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Bob
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://infoserviceonto.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/infoserviceonto/inf...
>>>> trunk/rdf/infoservice.n3
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://infoserviceonto.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/infoserviceonto/inf...
>>>> trunk/gfx/infoservice.gif
>>>> [3]
>>>> http://infoserviceonto.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/infoserviceonto/inf...
>>>> trunk/gfx/is_-_musicbrainz_example.gif
>>>> [4]https://infoserviceonto.wordpress.com/
>>>> [5]
>>>> https://infoserviceonto.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/what-is-an-informati...
>>>> e/
>>>> [6]
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/info-service-ontology-specification-gr...
>>>> 0211f7fe52978
>>>> [7]http://w3.cyu.edu.tw/ccwei/PAPER/ERP/data%20quality%28JMIS%29.pdf
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