> It does not have go beyond the 7 
> retransmissions.  It could start a timer to
> refresh at half the remaining time.  Or it 
> could start a timer to send the BYE at 10 seconds 
> before expiration.


Right, so basically you can start a new
INVITE transaction to send the refresh
next time - instead of retransmitting the
original.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Tate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 September 2003 15:24
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] A Query about session-timer
> 
> 
> > > > However, if you are the refresher 
> > > > (which is what your question refers to)
> > > > then it is not so clear (and maybe just 
> > > > plain wrong).  Surely if one has sent 
> > > > the INVITE and its retransmissions and 
> > > > no response was received, then it must 
> > > > be that the other end has experienced a 
> > > > serious error. 
> > >
> > > Not true.  A proxy or something in the
> > > signaling path might be down or undergoing 
> > > a restart.
> >
> > If this is the case the the refresher need 
> > to go beyond 7 retransmissions. its a 
> > violation of INVITE txn. Will this be OK ?????
> 
> It does not have go beyond the 7 
> retransmissions.  It could start a timer to
> refresh at half the remaining time.  Or it 
> could start a timer to send the BYE at 10 seconds 
> before expiration.
>  
> > But the session refresh request is something 
> > similar to re-invite request with an intention 
> > to extend the session's life time..
> >
> > I feel after 7 retransmissions for session 
> > refrest request the BYE must have been sent 
> > by the refresher. what is mentioned by Attila 
> > Sipos perfectly meet all teh requirements.
> 
> It follows the SHOULD of rfc3261 instead of the
> SHOULD of session-timer-11.  However I was 
> surprised to see the statement still in the draft
> since it introduces potential SHOULD conflict with 
> rfc3261.
> 
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