Fair enough. I hadn't considered distinctive ring-back to the calling
party. I was only thinking about the common usage of providing a
distinctive ring depending on who is calling you which doesn't make much
sense when applied to a 180. I mean, you already know who you're
ringing, right? ;-)

I think your take on what your application needs to do when it receives
this header is correct and I have mainly seen the URL format myself.

Regards,

Ben  


-----Original Message-----
From: Wainwright, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 November 2004 19:07
To: Ben Gatewood; Troy Cauble; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Distinctive Call ringing.

Maybe I need some more coffee :)
In the INVITE the Alert-info message is applicable to the ED party and
in
the RINGING message it is of interest to the ING party. Correct ?
I think what I meant to say is that my application will need to handle
the
Alert-info when it receives an INVITE and then determine what 'tone' to
play.

Regards
John

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Gatewood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:53 PM
To: Wainwright, John; Troy Cauble; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Distinctive Call ringing.


I may have missed something here (it's late and I've had too much
coffee) but what is the point in putting an Alert-info header into a 180
RINGING? Surely the information conveyed by this header is only relevant
when delivered to the *called* party?

Regards,

Ben

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Wainwright,
John
Sent: 18 November 2004 18:45
To: 'Troy Cauble'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Distinctive Call ringing.

This could be the case - I will investigate further.
I think I am only really interested in the Alert-info as part of the 180
Ringing message - I don't think my application will generate it in an
INVITE
method. Aren't there security concerns with supplying a URL from a
Calling
party to be played by a Called party ? I always thought DCR was more
useful
when linked to a caller ID such that a different 'tone' was played
depending
on the calling party ?

Thanks
John


-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Cauble [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 1:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wainwright, John
Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Distinctive Call ringing.



"Wainwright, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience with Distinctive Call Ringing using
> SIP ?
> 
> As far as I can make out this is achieved using the ALERT-Info header
> which seems to take a URL as a parameter to indicate what ringing 
> 'tone' to play. I thought I came across a Cisco implementation that 
> used an integer field instead of the URL.
> 
> Any insights ?
> 
> Thanks
> John

Alert-Info: and the use of an URL are standard.

I've seen more than one system use this form

        Alert-Info: <http://127.0.0.1/Bellcore-dr3>

to indicate a DR, but I don't think it's a standard.
(Google will turn up some examples.)

Just guessing, but maybe the implementation you remember
took a integer field at configuration time, then generated something
like
the above from it.

-troy
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