You should take a look at KPNL in conjunction with the Application
Interaction Framework -
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-app-interaction-f
ramework-05.txt

Chris.
 

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Sent: 12 October 2005 06:09
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Implementors'
Cc: 'Kostinsky Gadi-BGK010'
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Support iof the SIP INFO method

Yes, like Paulo said, interworking between entities must have mutual
agreement about the required features.
There are several means to carry DTMF(2833, INFO, KPML), each may be
used in
some specific cases.

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Arruda Borelli
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Cc: 'Kostinsky Gadi-BGK010'
Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Support iof the SIP INFO method


Hi Uri,

You cannot assume it. You gotta check in the particular SIP phone
datasheet
what is (are) the supported method(s) for DTMF transport.

The options, with SIP, are:
Inband with RFC2833 - most SIP phones do support it as of today Outband
with
INFO or NOTIFY - a small number of SIP phones support either one as of
today.

PS: some will say that RFC2833 is *not* an inband method. It is, in my
opinion. Because the RFC2833 method uses the RTP protocol, which handles
*media* and not signaling. And RTP is never forwarded to SIP proxies -
while
SIP INFO (or NOTIFY) messages use to be routed through the proxy.

HTH
Paulo Borelli.

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Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Support iof the SIP INFO method

Say I use it to carry DTMF from the user to the server. Can I expect
that my
(typical) phone would support it? 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 8:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Support iof the SIP INFO method

What`s your assumption for the function of INFO? 
The INFO itself does not have real functional meaning, the content of
the
message and the call flow related is the key. Normally, INFO is used to
carry ISUP message for SIP-T.

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Would that be a fair assumption to make that most of the SIP phones in
the
market support the SIP INFO method?
 
-uri
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