The acronyms you are using are a bit obscure. What is a SS ?

Most ITSPs do not handle REFER. The bridging component has to convert
the REFER to an INVITE to the target of the REFER ( i.e. it has to
short circuit the REFER ). If you are interested in the gory details
and a working example of all of this, checkout the sipXbridge
component from the SIPX project ( http://www.sipfoundry.org ). In it
you will find a design document that explains the gory details.

Ranga

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Manoj Priyankara [TG]<mano...@suntel.lk> wrote:
> Thanks Vipul,
>
> In this case the UACs are defined in the IP-PBX and registered in the
> IP-PBX.
>
> When a UAC of the IP-PBX sends REFER message to transfer a call to the
> SS through the SIP trunk SS sends 403 Forbidden to the REFER message.
>
> Of course the SS can act as a B2BUA, but is it possible connect the call
> legs from the SS and release the IP-PBX from the picture?
>
> Thanks for the expert support
> BR,
> Manoj
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul) [mailto:vrast...@avaya.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:45 PM
> To: Manoj Priyankara [TG]; Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: RE: [Sip-implementors] Call Transfer through a SIP trunk
>
>
> If SS is acting as proxy then it can't handle media part. I would expect
> SS also to be b2bua, in which case IP-PBX should exit from media path.
> But as Paul said nothing is defined.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of
> Manoj Priyankara [TG]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:40 AM
> To: Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Call Transfer through a SIP trunk
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Sorry for using more generic terms. In this case the IP-PBX acts as a
> B2BUA and the SS acts as a Proxy
>
> BR,
> Manoj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of
> Paul Kyzivat
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:50 PM
> To: Manoj Priyankara [TG]
> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Call Transfer through a SIP trunk
>
> Manoj,
>
> Virtually none of the terms you use below have well defined meanings in
> sip standards. Many people use such terms, but AFAIK there are not well
> understood and consistent implementations for them. So it is not
> possible to answer your question as posed.
>
> Tell us whether your SS and IP-PBX are proxies, or B2BUAs. And if
> B2BUAs, do they terminate media or not.
>
> Then it may be possible to give you an answer.
>
>        Thanks,
>        Paul
>
> Manoj Priyankara [TG] wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Please consider the following scenario.
>>
>> Assume that there is a standard Soft Switch; and an IP PBX is
> connected
>> to the SS using a SIP trunk.
>>
>> IP PBX has a user (Say A)
>>
>> An incoming call comes from an external party through the SS to user
> A.
>> User A transfers that call to an external party. (Say B). This call
> leg
>> also goes through the SS
>>
>>
>> Incoming call to A
>>
>>               SIP Trunk
>> C-----> |SS|-------->|IP-PBX|------> A
>>
>>
>> Transfer to B
>>
>> A---->|IP PBX|------->|SS|-------> B
>>
>> In this scenario, can the media be bridged from the SS and release all
>
>> the resources in the IP PBX once the call is transferred?
>>
>> Thanks
>> BR,
>> Manoj
>>
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