Hi Jonathan, 

The use case we are looking at is where the registrar is separate from
the edge proxy. While the edge proxy could validate the UA has access to
a cert issued by a trusted root, it doesn't necessarily mean the UA has
a valid subscription to network services. The edge proxy may/would not
have access to this type of registration data, thus the need to
authenticate from UA to registrar. The only use case I am aware of is
UAs authenticating directly to registrar's, for these same reasons. 

Steve.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 2:43 PM
To: Dean Willis
Cc: IETF SIP List; DRAGE,Keith (Keith)
Subject: Re: [Sip] Certificate authentication in SIP



Dean Willis wrote:

> Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:
> 
>>Well, I'm going to be contrarian here. I'm not convinced that this is 
>>needed.
>>
>>I think certificate based authentication is a great idea. However, I 
>>am not sure I understand why TLS is not an appropriate solution.
>>
> 
> 
> I think it is very simple why TLS is not appropriate. TLS doesn't work

> across proxies, and would therefore require the edge proxy to do 
> authentication.

So what? I think thats what ought to happen. I'd like to see some
specific use cases where this can't work with the edge proxy performing
the authentication. Keep in mind, we are talking about *certificate*
authentication; that doesn't (by definition) required any kind of
pre-arranged secret - only a common root CA.

-Jonathan R.
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