In your experience would there be a quorum of incumbent providers who would be willing to publish their numbers in an infrastructure enum, available only to other "club members"? Such a thing is essentially the logical conclusion of Peppermint, isn't it? Just in a distributed form.
-hadriel > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Richard Shockey > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:22 PM > To: 'Jonathan Rosenberg'; 'Paul Kyzivat' > Cc: 'IETF SIP List' > Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers > > In line > > > I agree that something along the lines of enum could solve this > > problem, > > and I believe there was a draft that proposed such a thing. This has > > been discussed since the start of rfc4474. > > > > However, I fear that saying, 'use enum' is kind of like saying, we'll > > just use an All-Knowing Oracle, so lets figure out the interface > > protocol to the Oracle. > > Yea and lets end world hunger while we're at it ... > > > The easy part is the interface (the enum > > mechanism). The actual hard problem is how to get those entries > > populated. The deployment of public enum has been - shall we say - > > less than spectacular. > > "less than spectacular .." now there is an understatement, if there ever > was > one. Though private non DNS visible enum systems are going like > gangbusters > as TCAP/SS7 replacements all over the place. > > I find this entire discussion somewhat hilarious, almost side splitting, > considering what some us had to go through to get A. get public ENUM > defined > B. then see what happened with delegations in the e164.arpa domain in the > intervening 6 years or so. > > The very idea that there is going to be some consensus on who "owns" a > phone > number, much less a deployable system considering the various competing > interests here is a complete fantasy. > > > > I'd hate for that to be our only solution. Not that > > its obvious what else to do; though I do suggest in my draft how > > domain > > based authentication, when combined with whitelists and blacklists, > > can > > help. > > > > -Jonathan R. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip > Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip