> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Shockey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:19 PM
> To: Hadriel Kaplan; 'Jonathan Rosenberg'; 'Paul Kyzivat'
> Cc: 'IETF SIP List'
> Subject: RE: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers
>
>
> >  In your experience would there be a quorum of incumbent providers who
> >  would be willing to publish their numbers in an infrastructure enum,
> >  available only to other "club members"?  Such a thing is essentially
> >  the logical conclusion of Peppermint, isn't it?  Just in a distributed
> >  form.
> >
> >  -hadriel
>
> Short answer NO but that is IMHO. Not in a global DNS tree, it's too
> fraught
> with real politics and I mean REAL politics.

I agree with you there.  I'm thinking something slightly less global, like 
local in fact.


> PEPPERMINT is not about the provisioning of public, infrastructure
> (carrier
> of record) or private ENUM trees. It could easily encompass bilateral or
> multilateral arrangements or PBX to SP data exchanges.

That's not how I meant it.  I meant, as it appears from the ESPP proposal, the 
idea is to exchange prefix and possibly unique number data reachability data.  
It is not clear if it would encompass ported numbers too, or not.  Regardless, 
ESPP can't actually handle transit cases as written, but one possible outcome 
is that such data exchanged could let the providers learn the terminating 
provider domain, and thus if a call comes from it, what should have signed it. 
(sort of like uRPF in IP routing)  Doesn't matter anyway for now, just 
fantasizing. :)


> And yes you all are welcome to come to the 2nd PEPPERMINT BOF, alas beer
> will not be served.

I would think it should be schnapps... peppermint that is.  If you guys can't 
come up with a better name. (please!)

-hadriel
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