Sounds reasonable to me. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 18:44
> To: Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); IETF SIP List
> Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers
> 
> Actually what I am hoping to do is to just clearly document 
> the applicability of RFC4474 to numbers and be much crisper 
> with guidance on when to use it, when to not, what it buys 
> you with numbers (since it does help a little even then - 
> receivers can know the domain that asserts that number and 
> use blacklists/whitelists to judge trustability).
> 
> I also want to make sure we are not basing SRTP security on 
> integrity properties delivered with RFC4474, when said 
> properties aren't really delivered so well with phone numbers.
> 
> -Jonathan R.
> 
> Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Francois Audet wrote:
> >> I think we might be talking about two different aspects.
> >>
> >> For "phone numbers", I agree with you that parity is ok.
> >>
> >> For "email-looking addresses", I believe the bar is higher (and we 
> >> have it already with 4474).
> > 
> > OK. THen we aren't far apart. I agree we want and have something 
> > better for email-style addresses where the domain is 
> significant. It 
> > is the "phone number" addresses I am concerned with here. I 
> think we 
> > must have parity, and ideally better when the PSTN isn't involved.
> > 
> >     Paul
> > 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 
> >>> February 19, 2008 11:58
> >>> To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
> >>> Cc: Jonathan Rosenberg; IETF SIP List
> >>> Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Francois Audet wrote:
> >>>> I'm not sure I agree with that.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we want something that is better than the PSTN. I
> >>> just don't
> >>>> think it's the right question to ask.
> >>> I certainly *want* something better than PSTN. But 
> perhaps we don't
> >>> *need* that. I think we do *need* something "as good as" the PSTN.
> >>>
> >>> But perhaps the first order of business is to come to 
> agreement on 
> >>> what we need.
> >>
> > 
> 
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