Actually what I am hoping to do is to just clearly document the 
applicability of RFC4474 to numbers and be much crisper with guidance on 
when to use it, when to not, what it buys you with numbers (since it 
does help a little even then - receivers can know the domain that 
asserts that number and use blacklists/whitelists to judge trustability).

I also want to make sure we are not basing SRTP security on integrity 
properties delivered with RFC4474, when said properties aren't really 
delivered so well with phone numbers.

-Jonathan R.

Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> 
> 
> Francois Audet wrote:
>> I think we might be talking about two different aspects.
>>
>> For "phone numbers", I agree with you that parity is ok.
>>
>> For "email-looking addresses", I believe the bar is higher (and we
>> have it already with 4474).
> 
> OK. THen we aren't far apart. I agree we want and have something better 
> for email-style addresses where the domain is significant. It is the 
> "phone number" addresses I am concerned with here. I think we must have 
> parity, and ideally better when the PSTN isn't involved.
> 
>     Paul
> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 
>>> February 19, 2008 11:58
>>> To: Audet, Francois (SC100:3055)
>>> Cc: Jonathan Rosenberg; IETF SIP List
>>> Subject: Re: [Sip] New I-D on RFC4474 and phone numbers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Francois Audet wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure I agree with that.
>>>>
>>>> I think we want something that is better than the PSTN. I 
>>> just don't
>>>> think it's the right question to ask.
>>> I certainly *want* something better than PSTN. But perhaps we don't
>>> *need* that. I think we do *need* something "as good as" the PSTN.
>>>
>>> But perhaps the first order of business is to come to agreement on 
>>> what we need.
>>
> 

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