Francois Audet writes:

 > I think the point is that some proxies WANT to know. They want to use
 > the keep-alive to keep tract of the availability of the UA without
 > waiting for a request to fail.

then we are talking about a different application than keeping tcp NAT
binding alive.  was scope of christer's draft to define a general
purpose "is UA alive" detection protocol?

i don't think that existing UA implementations that support CRLF send
them if they are not behind NAT.  if proxy wants to know if UA is still
alive or not, then we need to mandate CRLF keepalive for all UAs whether
behind NAT or not.  in my opinion this would be a quite fundamental
addition to sip UA behavior.

but even in that case the proxy could measure the interval between
the first two CRLFs and thus auto-detect it.

-- juha
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