There is a very messy slippery slope here with the reliable 199.

I believe we have agreed that the 199 is to have the to-tag used by the UAS. So conceptually it is *from* the UAS. If you want the proxy to send the 199 reliably, then it will have to field the response. As others have mentioned, this seems to mean that it will have to use its own contact address, which will be a change from the contact used previously by the UAS for this early dialog.

That gives me heartburn - it just seems wrong. Ignoring that, it puts the 199 into the middle of the open question about changing of contact addresses and how they take effect.

This could be addressed by always sending the 199 with a To-tag assigned by the proxy. But that has its own problems. It actually makes the situation worse for UACs that don't support 199.

We sidestep all these problems by not sending the 199 reliably.

Maybe we we should say that the UAC must be prepared to handle both reliable and unreliable 199, but for now we don't specify any cases when a reliable 199 is sent.

Another thought - there aren't any issues if the *UAS* sends the 199 reliably. But that isn't going to be the common case.

        Paul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   From: "Christer Holmberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   [CHH] Whether the text should be in the document at all depends on if we
   allow 199 to be sent reliably in the first place. Based on the comments
   received so far we should not mandate 199 to be sent reliably, even if
   100rel is required by the UAC. But, the question if whether we want to
   FORBID sending it reliably.

If we ever might allow 199 to be used for HERFP, we should admit the
possibility of sending it reliably in the first draft.  Otherwise,
we'll be locked out of sending it reliably in the future.

Dale
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